Originally Posted by
johnst_nhb
Sorry Mark, canÂ’t help it...I wanted to stay away but they pulled me back in.
Note: My response is not really related to your post, Andrew, but it triggered some thoughts...
There are some “Far East” bullshit martial artists for sure. But there are some very legit, tough martial artists who practice “Far East” martial arts. Should everything be judged on success in MMA? Of course not. I’ve known plenty of old school karate guys that are tough as nails- far tougher than the average person. And that is all that matters, unless you’re a competitive athlete in mma.
And I’ve never known or talked to a pro mma fighter or even anyone accomplished in kickboxing, Muay Thai or bjj bash any traditional martial art on its own merit, even when I asked. They don’t because they know it’s apples and oranges. Bashing individuals or made up styles is a whole ‘nuther story...
But let’s not confuse the Made in America(tm) “Shorei Goju” with anything recognized in Okinawa or Japan. It is not a “Far East” martial art. In fact the words “Shorei” (even that word is iffy) and “Goju”, both words used to describe Okinawan schools of karate, would be oxymorons. It’s always been an eye-roller for legit karate people. Hence my earlier statement about how it would be met with a “WTF?” on Okinawa.
I donÂ’t have a motive here, except to expose that American made up terms are not recognized as legit where it counts. And that there are very tough dudes outside of mma.