Originally Posted by
Mark E. Hurling
Huh. Didn't know a throw like that existed in wrestling. But then I know jack about that particular sport, other than some of it's similarities to Judo and Jujitsu. Thanks for the fetchin' up AL.
As to why I use a pretentious language like Japanese for some things related to martial arts is the same reason Latin gets used for so many things scientific, medical, legal, and religious discussions. The specific words and phrases describe particular techniques and things that are easier to look up than say, an under hooked hip sweep. Kinda like using moment arm and center of mass to describe certain things by certain expert persons.
But to the actual nugget of a rhetorical question among the dung of the trolling. i.e. How did I cope, and someone else's never having seen such a counter before, not directed at you AL.
I coped by getting raised to chest height on this large Taiwanese Judoka (that means Judo guy) and then hurled to the mat and landed upon by that same guy. I suspect I was at least mildly concussed since despite tucking my chin on my chest, the force of the landing overcame the strength of my sternocleidomastoid (like the use of Latin here?) and my head snapped back on the mat, rebounded on his own head, and then recoiled back to the mat again. I coped rather poorly with a headache that lasted several days unabated. I also went to work on patrol that night on graves. Not fun.
As to counters for the technique I mentioned, there are a few. I'll do my best to use SS-ese so as to make it more understandable and less pretentious.
One is to drop the hips under the center mass of the guy trying to throw you. Not really an option for the big guy, since I was 5'11" at the time and he had over 6" of height on me.
Another is to use some lateral hip drive, kinda like pushing the hips up and forward doing a clean or a snatch. There was probably some element of this that was done by the big guy. My memory is a little weak from several decades of time passed and some moderate head trauma.
In my own case, I believe it was simply a matter of too much weight and strength and skill for me to overcome. This competition was a fund raiser for the SIU Judo team and the Taiwanese involved were touring the US as part of their Olympic team. Big guy was a 5th degree black belt (or Godan in Japanese) and I was a mere Ikkyu, the last degree of brown belt before making the cut for black belt. So besides the size difference, there were other major factors for me to deal with. Being a participant in this and having graduated a few years before and only training with the team, I was deemed expendable and got the short straw with this guy.
I might as well have tried to throw a planted light pole with a gi (that's the pajamas Judokas wear) wrapped around it. That's how much I moved him when I moved in for the throw. He looked down at me and grinned and my stomach turned a loop before he even launched.