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    It just blows my mind that there are so many stupid things out there. Especially when it effects young athletes it is upsetting.

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    "Because the strength coach who is half the size of his trainees is more interested in being in control of the athletes"

    There is a very interesting, but verboten, line of discussion concerning football coaches mostly being white and their players being (disproportionalty) black and the popularity of football in America. The sports commentators fetishize "coaching" for a reason. It really appeals to the (mostly white) fanbase. I much prefer the rule in rugby where the coaches sit in the stands during the game - let the athletes play "coach."

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    Its funny how all the "tough" coaches who shout and scream seem to be the ones who weren't particularly talented players. The rugby coach who got most out of us never once raised his voice, and would rather die than be centre of attention.

    I hope no one minds me using this forum to quiz a few people from the US about (American) Football. Much as I love watching it (the Giants won me 1500 in 2012) I cant help but feel its the sport where players have such set and individual roles that glory gets hugely focused on one or two players (QB's, RB's and WR's). Does it suck to play as a lineman, getting smashed all the time with little to show on the highlight reel? I know some positions in rugby are less glamorous, but even props get to run and pass and score the odd try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdcuth View Post
    Its funny how all the "tough" coaches who shout and scream seem to be the ones who weren't particularly talented players. The rugby coach who got most out of us never once raised his voice, and would rather die than be centre of attention.

    I hope no one minds me using this forum to quiz a few people from the US about (American) Football. Much as I love watching it (the Giants won me 1500 in 2012) I cant help but feel its the sport where players have such set and individual roles that glory gets hugely focused on one or two players (QB's, RB's and WR's). Does it suck to play as a lineman, getting smashed all the time with little to show on the highlight reel? I know some positions in rugby are less glamorous, but even props get to run and pass and score the odd try.
    As a former football lineman, running with the ball every game was my favorite part of playing rugby. It sucks to never touch the ball. I played second row, so every line out: MINE!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdcuth View Post
    Its funny how all the "tough" coaches who shout and scream seem to be the ones who weren't particularly talented players. The rugby coach who got most out of us never once raised his voice, and would rather die than be centre of attention.

    I hope no one minds me using this forum to quiz a few people from the US about (American) Football. Much as I love watching it (the Giants won me 1500 in 2012) I cant help but feel its the sport where players have such set and individual roles that glory gets hugely focused on one or two players (QB's, RB's and WR's). Does it suck to play as a lineman, getting smashed all the time with little to show on the highlight reel? I know some positions in rugby are less glamorous, but even props get to run and pass and score the odd try.
    Hope you got really good odds on that bet.

    Does it suck?
    I played Offensive line, defensive line and linebacker. I played 8 years, was recruited to a college D1 program where I got hurt in my first year.
    The short answer is no, it doesn't suck.

    (American) football is certainly much more specialized than rugby or basketball. It was an amazing experience for me. My approach to the game was both fierce and technical, resulting in me being the "smasher" not the "smashed". It paid for my college, which I could not have afforded. If only I knew how to lift weights properly in those days. My "career ending" injury would not have ended my career... might not have even happened.

    You were on a team full of specialists, facing a team full of specialists. Within that circle, everyone knew who the "winners and losers were". Even if people in the stands did not. There was a closeness within the group similar to a military unit. I would love to step on the field with those guys one more time. I never felt cheated that I wasn't a QB, WR or RB. The fact is, I would not have been very good at any of those positions, but I was hell on wheels as a lineman. (at least in my own mind LOL).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdcuth View Post
    Does it suck to play as a lineman, getting smashed all the time with little to show on the highlight reel?
    I played offensive tackle and defensive guard along with other less defined roles on defensive special teams for punts, kickoffs, and field goals by the opposing offense. I didn't care about carrying the ball. Rather, finding the ball was my fondest objective on defense and stopping whoever had it, or better yet, knocking it out of their possession. If I or someone else recovered it, that was great. Which I did a couple of times over years of high school, along with blocking three kicks, one of which bounced off my face guard and the kickers cleat knocking me cold. I had my job, and I enjoyed it.

    Offense was all about opening the line for the running backs for me. Again, that was my job, I knew I was no running back and doing what I could for helping them to score was enough for me. To each their talents and capabilities.

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    I guess their is a pleasure from being at the unrecognised and unglamorous coalface, doing the hard grunt work for the sake of the team.
    Also if your genetic tendency is towards being 6’5” and 310 pounds I guess there aren’t many other team sports that welcome those physical attributes.
    I was watching QB1 the documentary which prompted this post. I couldn’t believe how far ahead they were thinking about the high school QB’s careers and how disregarded so many of the other players in the team seemed to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FatButWeak View Post
    "Because the strength coach who is half the size of his trainees is more interested in being in control of the athletes"

    There is a very interesting, but verboten, line of discussion concerning football coaches mostly being white and their players being (disproportionalty) black and the popularity of football in America. The sports commentators fetishize "coaching" for a reason. It really appeals to the (mostly white) fanbase. I much prefer the rule in rugby where the coaches sit in the stands during the game - let the athletes play "coach."
    Maybe they "fetishize" coaching because the difference between a good coach and a bad coach determines whether the (mostly white) fanbase gets to see their team in the playoffs or not.

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