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    Default Wildfires on the east coast of Australia

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    Despite what you may heard on the news these last few months Australia has not burned to the ground. We lost about 20% of the forests and national parks and about 1500 homes, mostly confined to the east coast of Queensland, New South Wales and Victoria. We have also had a lot of rain which has put most of those fires out. Even where I live out west we had bad smoke haze for weeks.

    This is typical Australian weather, drought, heat and neglect by government agencies who did not manage the build up of years of undergrowth which meant the fires were a lot hotter this time. Also arsonists started a lot of the fires. By the way what is the penalty for arson in Texas?

    Aussies also are grateful for those folk from the US that came over to help fight the fires, three of which died in a plane crash on a fire ground. It was dangerous work.

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    Same thing here, wal. In an attempt to keep stupid people happy, the government lets fuels build up to the extent that the fires that inevitably start are far worse than they would have been otherwise. Arson is a bad felony in Texas, and everywhere else. The illegal alien who started the Spring Fire in Colorado in 2018 will never be out of jail. At least he hopes so -- several people were rather irritated with him.

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    Fuels management is definitely a good tool to have in the toolbox. However, ignitions coinciding with unfavorable weather (think Santa Ana/Diablo winds in California) are where you have the large conflagrations. Weather has been growing more unfavorable for stopping large fires for the last decade or more out West.

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    Wal, I trust you'll enjoy the 'expert' weather advice such as the below coming out of the latest 'climate outlook for March-June' from our renowned 'Bureau of Meteorology';

    - Both days and nights are likely to be warmer than average across most of the country for autumn, although days have roughly equal chances of being above or below average in the south.

    Full report here - Australian climate outlooks - if you dare....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Same thing here, wal. In an attempt to keep stupid people happy, the government lets fuels build up to the extent that the fires that inevitably start are far worse than they would have been otherwise. Arson is a bad felony in Texas, and everywhere else. The illegal alien who started the Spring Fire in Colorado in 2018 will never be out of jail. At least he hopes so -- several people were rather irritated with him.
    The "Green" folk have made inroads in government policy over the years, hence the relinquishing of the maintenance of fire trails and regular burnoffs of undergrowth, cattleman barred from allowing stock into National Parks to graze the grass lands. It is even so bad that collecting wood from the road side from fallen trees is an offence under local laws as this removes "animal habitats". About 500 million is the estimated loss of wildlife which may have been mitigated if regular burning of undergrowth was allowed over the years, it was a perfect fire-storm caused by drought, heat, human stupidity and criminal neglect.

    One other problem is that some folk like to build their homes in bushland and sure it is nice living with the natural environment, but in Australia in the middle of summer it is a recipe for disaster, so you know what happens now -- all the insurance premiums are going to increase to cover the losses and arson should be a capital offence.

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    For all the things the Feds (do elsewhere) and Illinois Department of Natural Resources do wrong, they are in the midst of their annual controlled burns in the Shawnee National Forest and IDNR controlled state parks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drewcar View Post
    Fuels management is definitely a good tool to have in the toolbox. However, ignitions coinciding with unfavorable weather (think Santa Ana/Diablo winds in California) are where you have the large conflagrations. Weather has been growing more unfavorable for stopping large fires for the last decade or more out West.
    Thus making fuels management even more crucial. And what has changed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Thus making fuels management even more crucial. And what has changed?
    Donít disagree with active fuels management. Regarding what has changed, there is very strong evidence that vapor pressure deficit has been steadily increasing since the 70s. Dry fuels drive a non-linear increase in acreage burned, at least in California.

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    How is that measured?

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    Don't forget that arson was a factor providing the "spark" as it were to many of these fires.

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