COVID19 Factors We Should Consider/Current Events

[jfsully]

So this guy is basically claiming that not only is Covid19 not as dangerous as it's made out to be, but there is no such thing as the coronaviruses in general, SARS included, SARS seems to be his primary topic of interest, or it used to be, I can see him writing many books on Covid19 in the future. He claims it's just a bunch of wrong testing and general panic mode going on among doctors and epidemiologists and politicians and everybody. This is my favourite part of the thread, maybe even of the whole event so far. Props for the pure HTML website, you don't see many of those nowadays.

That guy also believes (or at least writes) that HIV does not cause AIDS. He also appears to believe that viruses in general do not exist. Fun to read, maybe, but not a place to turn for practical information. His web site does not impress, nor do his well-hidden qualifications. Might as well post links to the Onion here too, if we just want entertainment. They're at least funnier than that crackpot.

Or maybe start with this: Prove to me that we're not all just brains in a vat, Matrix-style, and then I'll believe that world economic collapse and pandemics are something to care about. Sometimes it's fun to pass a bong around the dorm room floor and have deep conversations. That's the level of conversation from that particular link.

[Mark E. Hurling]

Happened in East Germany and the USSR too, so it's not Babdists.

It was a poor attempt at a joke. But the comparison to the soviets and their slave states is apt.

It wouldn't do all that bad for Germany under their now defunct national socialists. Maybe from some of the more contemporary posts coming from there, maybe now too. All for the greater good of course.

[Yngvi]

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Good summary that mirrors what most of us have seen and felt over the past 8 years.

[Rob Waskis]

New York is approaching Italy.

For the last 14 days, the daily death rate in Italy has been very flat at around 745 per day.

It has been said many times that we are "two weeks behind Italy". Perhaps death rates in the USA will level off as well.

I still find it interesting that Africa, the Eastern Mediterranean, Southeast Asia, and the Western Pacific regions tracked by the WHO are not seeing the exponential growth of cases or deaths that the rest of the world is seeing. Is it testing, reporting, climate, air quality, something else?

[Mark Rippetoe]

(This illustrates how a poorly-understood disease has greater potential to overwhelm than a relatively well-understood one.)

Especially if overreacted to with radical countermeasures that may themselves be iatrogenic.

I think commercial real estate is in a death spiral and is about to sink lower than whale dung.

You are more involved in the commercial real estate world than I am...what are you thinking about all this?

We're thinking that it couldn't happen to a better group of people. They are almost universally a pain in the ass and an impediment to getting a business started. Maybe this will make them rethink a few things. If empty strip center space is the new norm, things will certainly look different in the cities.

Its plotted on a log scale.

Right. An exponential increase that culminates in the entire mass of the visible universe consisting of COVID-19 particles by October 1. Look at the NYC data on this page, second one down, "Daily Counts." Check it every day as it's updated:COVID-19: Data - NYC Health

[Mark Rippetoe]

Those of you who like Peter Robinson's podcast "Uncommon Knowledge" will appreciate this addition to the discussion:

Questioning Conventional Wisdom In The COVID-19 Crisis, With Dr. Jay Bhattacharya | Hoover Institution

Transcript: Questioning Conventional Wisdom In The COVID-19 Crisis, With Dr. Jay Bhattacharya | Hoover Institution

[Jovan Dragisic]

That guy also believes (or at least writes) that HIV does not cause AIDS. He also appears to believe that viruses in general do not exist. Fun to read, maybe, but not a place to turn for practical information. His web site does not impress, nor do his well-hidden qualifications. Might as well post links to the Onion here too, if we just want entertainment. They're at least funnier than that crackpot.

I don't know man, I prefer the actual crazies to the satirists, you can't make shit like this up. One dude analysing all the open source medical data is coming to conclusions that put the rest of the scientific world to shame, before the internet those dudes had to print newsletters, now they can all self publish in pure HTML. But hey, he owns some kind of telecommunication solutions company!

[Soule]

Another bit of evidence that COVID-19 is more of a cardiovascular disease than a respiratory one.

In the past few days, both Italian and American doctors observed that, despite very low blood oxygen saturation, lung mechanics (i.e. lung gas volume) remain intact. COVID-19 patients do not really have ARDS; the typical use of a ventilator, at high pressure, is probably iatrogenic. This makes the "early vent" strategy look pretty bad.

(This illustrates how a poorly-understood disease has greater potential to overwhelm than a relatively well-understood one.)

This is why i told you boys to double up on the testosterone.

[ltomo]

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Good summary that mirrors what most of us have seen and felt over the past 8 years.

Spot on. I lived in China back in 2013-14 and what that guy says is exactly correct.

After this debacle is over, I think the West's relationship with China is going to have to resemble our relationship with the USSR during the Cold War. No way can we keep trading with China now that it's become obvious they're our generation's Nazi Germany.

[Soule]

EPO for critical, hypoxic covid19 patients... thoughts?