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    So, people who live in high altitudes have a higher red blood cell count.

    Just some correlations here:

    Coronavirus in the U.S.: Latest Map and Case Count - The New York Times

    united states altitude map - Google Search

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    To the Acolytes of the Church of Numerology: Bruno, Shiva, et. al.

    Consider this. You have aligned yourself with a Stalinist doctrine wherein the kulaks (read "non-essential" workers for the current day) were disenfranchised and declared surplus to the progress of homo sovieticus.

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    What purpose does this silly statement serve?

    At least 8,100 people with the coronavirus have now died in the United States, according to a New York Times database. The death toll has grown by more than 500 each day for the last week and now exceeds the number of people known to have died from the virus in mainland China, where the pandemic started in December.
    Does the NYT really want people to believe that we have done a less competent job than the PRC? Does the NYT actually accept the bullshit from China about their new cases and deaths? They can't be that stupid, so what is the point here?

    It also correlates with population density.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post

    Right. An exponential increase that culminates in the entire mass of the visible universe consisting of COVID-19 particles by October 1. Look at the NYC data on this page, second one down, "Daily Counts." Check it every day as it's updated:COVID-19: Data - NYC Health
    Rip, Im simply pointing out to the guy that said its linear that it wad plotted on a log scale. I.e the growth was exponential over that period. Of course it cant be exponential for ever, and a lot of people will attribute that to the lockdowns whereas it may be due to other reasons too.

    Thanks for the link to NY data, Im not from the USA so only really following my country and totals for USA and Sweden so far but will watch that one too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    What purpose does this silly statement serve?



    Does the NYT really want people to believe that we have done a less competent job than the PRC? Does the NYT actually accept the bullshit from China about their new cases and deaths? These people are amazing!



    It also correlates with population density.
    Sorry just meant to link the map ó fuck the article.

    Would a higher red blood cell count make a person more resilient to the virus? Seems like hypoxia is an issue with severe cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spacediver View Post
    Skimmed it.

    Let's assume he's correct, and that there are severe flaws in testing methodology, and that there is no pandemic.

    How does that fit with the fact that there are spikes in severe pneumonia around the world occurring within the same time period?
    Didnt read. Jumped straight to conclusion for entertainment.

    The conclusion identifies that even if 1% of positive test results are false positives then a "significant fraction" of results "could" be false positives.

    Imagine if 1% of pigs "could" fly and we just never gave them the chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soule View Post
    EPO for critical, hypoxic covid19 patients... thoughts?
    Quote Originally Posted by Soule View Post
    So, people who live in high altitudes have a higher red blood cell count.

    Just some correlations here:

    Coronavirus in the U.S.: Latest Map and Case Count - The New York Times

    united states altitude map - Google Search
    You have a little more work to do here.

    Fewer people live at higher elevations in the US than at lower, and population may be less dense at altitude, generally. Is there really a lower rate of infection at altitude? Is the rate of infection truly related to altitude, or are there other confounding factors?

    Yes, people have slightly higher RBC counts on average at higher altitudes. People all over the country have varying RBC counts. If this helped with covid, we would see this association everywhere, as we check a CBC on every ill patient, usually at least daily.

    How long does EPO take to work, and how much does it raise HCT? How much do you have to raise HCT to make a difference in oxygen delivery to tissue? Is it safe to use EPO to raise HCT in a non-anemic person? Can it go to high? What are the risks? How long does the effect of EPO last, if it does add risk? Does it help with any other situations where there is acute hypoxia?

    How safe is it to give EPO to critically ill patients?

    Let us know what you come up with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Does the NYT really want people to believe that we have done a less competent job than the PRC? Does the NYT actually accept the bullshit from China about their new cases and deaths? They can't be that stupid, so what is the point here?
    NYT runs China Daily online (ADVERTISEMENT by China Daily — China Watch) and supposedly as an insert in their paper edition. It's marked as an advertisement, but NYT has to be pulling in some good money for this. It wouldn't make financial sense to offend a valuable customer.

    Beyond that, it seems like most US media outlets hold painting Trump and his administration as buffoons as their highest objective. Makes for more entertaining reading, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soule View Post
    Sorry just meant to link the map ó fuck the article.

    Would a higher red blood cell count make a person more resilient to the virus? Seems like hypoxia is an issue with severe cases.
    It's an interesting question.

    Here's some speculation from a non expert:

    My guess is that having a higher Hb (mass of Hemoglobin per volume of blood) would at best buy you a bit more time for your immune system to mount a successful response before you asphyxiate. But I suspect that by the time you are that far gone that you can only last a few more (hours/days?) than someone with a normal Hb, your immune system has already reached critical failure.

    I don't know if having high Hb actually slows the spread of infection, or provides some actual immunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfsully View Post
    You have a little more work to do here.

    Fewer people live at higher elevations in the US than at lower, and population may be less dense at altitude, generally. Is there really a lower rate of infection at altitude? Is the rate of infection truly related to altitude, or are there other confounding factors?

    Yes, people have slightly higher RBC counts on average at higher altitudes. People all over the country have varying RBC counts. If this helped with covid, we would see this association everywhere, as we check a CBC on every ill patient, usually at least daily.

    How long does EPO take to work, and how much does it raise HCT? How much do you have to raise HCT to make a difference in oxygen delivery to tissue? Is it safe to use EPO to raise HCT in a non-anemic person? Can it go to high? What are the risks? How long does the effect of EPO last, if it does add risk? Does it help with any other situations where there is acute hypoxia?

    How safe is it to give EPO to critically ill patients?

    Let us know what you come up with.
    EPO takes a while from what Iíve researched. Surely there is a faster way to raise a personís red blood cell count?

    I agree with the population factor. However, there are several cities of similar size that have much fewer reported infections compared to those at lower altitudes. Iíve yet to see a high altitude city with a high infection rate per capita, but the same canít be said for low altitude cities. Compare vegas, el paso, Albuquerque, denver VS new orleans, detroit, portland.

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