It's likely there is overreaction in WF/elsewhere. If the goal is to keep hospitals capable of servicing the public (at the expense of other businesses), the goal is not achieved by prematurely cutting services.
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It's likely there is overreaction in WF/elsewhere. If the goal is to keep hospitals capable of servicing the public (at the expense of other businesses), the goal is not achieved by prematurely cutting services.
Actually, ~97% of the country is now on some sort of lockdown. Unfortunately, this took far to long which will end up prolonging this. Also, unfortunately some states exempted some gatherings as churches which is not going to help. We also need to keep an eye on China regarding when and how to lift the restrictions. You can clearly see them gathering again en mass in public again as soon as the restrictions were lifted, which could increase the likelihood of recurrence.
BTW, the US is indeed tracking us with our phones as well. So much for privacy/security eh?
Countries are tracking citizens''' phones because of the coronavirus - Business Insider
That's quite a logical leap.
I dig this Texas former Congressman...
End the Shutdown; It’s Time for Resurrection! - LewRockwell
BrunoLawrence is either crazy or trolling at this point, but reading his rants is filling in the Joe Exotic-sized hole in my heart now that I've finished Tiger King.
In my neck of the woods (Columbus, OH) most of the early panickers are starting to come around. The lowering of case projections that came out the last couple days has really rustled some jimmies, in a good way. There's only two women in my social circle who won't let their kids out to play with the neighbors anymore. My gym's FB page is full of people asking them to open back up again.
No. China's lockdown was a 100%, "if you cut the tape we put over your door, then you go make big rocks into smaller rocks at the gulag" type of lockdown. What we have here is a bunch of people largely abiding while enough of the country doesn't. That was my entire point: If you want a fully effective lockdown to work, you have to impinge on people's freedoms the way China and, to some extent, Korea, are doing. Otherwise, you have 95%-ish of the company doing the right thing while the rest of the people still spread the disease, make this thing longer, and ultimately stretch out the inevitable anyway.
Regarding cell phone tracking:
I know that when returning to Korea and clearing customs, Korean citizens are sent to a hotel for 14 days. Their phones have an app installed on them and the government specifically tracks their personal movement. They have to check in twice a day on their phone app and report temperature, any new symptoms, etc... That is part of their 14 day quarantine. I am not 100% sure if they are doing the same thing with residents already in the country who test positive. No way in absolute hell would that fly here.
Again... Keep the most vulnerable at home. We've already proven we're willing to light the fuse on the money cannon. Let the rest of America go back to work.
Regardless, this is a far cry from the US checking ad data to find where people are clustering. Even so, you can be sure the privacy people will certainly be on this.
Plenty of data supporting the possibility and probability has been presented so far. Perhaps you would be so kind to address any of that in a more specific manner?Quote:
That's quite a logical leap.
Or are you perhaps one of the policy makers who will be patting themselves on the back when this is all said and done?
The same China that declared no new cases after they kicked out foreign reporters? The same China that conspired with the WHO to downplay the outbreak? The same China who was selected to serve on the UN's Human Rights Council Panel? They're our bellwether for responding to the coronavirus?
What effects do you foresee on the economy if tomorrow morning we open everything back up and rapidly spread the virus? Are people still going to go to your gym? Would you still go out to eat? That may happen for a week or two, then you will start to see the consequences once the virus spreads.
Cool, open the gym and let one asymptomatic carrier come in and start working out. Let's see how rapidly it spreads. How many people will be coming back in the next 1-2 weeks? Again, not a difficult concept to understand. This is exactly the type of response that will prolong this!
BTW, the reason for the lower rates of mortality and hospitalizations compared to previous models is because the original models predicted that only 50% of the country would follow the recommendations. However, > 90% of the country is currently following them. So please continue bitching about being quarantined while you remain quarantined.
Trump’s top health officials predict diminished coronavirus death toll - POLITICO