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    International Journal of Vaccine Theory: Worse Than the Disease? Reviewing Some Possible Unintended Consequences of the mRNA Vaccines Against COVID-19 - May 10, 2021
    Experimental mRNA vaccines have been heralded as having the potential for great benefits, but they also harbor the possibility of potentially tragic and even catastrophic unforeseen consequences
    I thought "vaccine shedding" was Alex Jones quality doom porn, but...
    There has been considerable chatter on the Internet about the possibility of vaccinated people causing disease in unvaccinated people in close proximity. While this may seem hard to believe, there is a plausible process by which it could occur through the release of exosomes from dendritic cells in the spleen containing misfolded spike proteins, in complex with other prion reconformed proteins. These exosomes can travel to distant places. It is not impossible to imagine that they are being released from the lungs and inhaled by a nearby person.
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    A Phase 1/2/3 study undertaken by BioNTech on the Pfizer mRNA vaccine implied in their study protocol that they anticipated the possibility of secondary exposure to the vaccine (BioNTech, 2020). The protocol included the requirement that “exposure during pregnancy” should be reported by the study participants. They then gave examples of “environmental exposure during pregnancy” which included exposure “to the study intervention by inhalation or skin contact.” They even suggested two levels of indirect exposure: “A male family member or healthcare provider who has been exposed to the study intervention by inhalation or skin contact then exposes his female partner prior to or around the time of conception.”
    This paper also addresses a Possible Link to Prion Diseases and Neurodegeneration. I suspect this would take time to develop, so plausible deniability will rule.

    I think I will shove this paper in the face of anyone who insists I get the experimental injections.

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    Denninger today: Stop The Death Cult in [Market-Ticker-Nad]

    The pandemic has brought into stark relief the outrageous and yet irrefutable evidence of depraved indifference at the altar of money found in both our government's organs, where we let people in power get a cut of the proceeds and in the private sector that has turned into a wildly-venomous serpent striking at anyone and anything that interferes with its cash flow.

    Today nearly all of drug development begins with public grants. That is, your money. It goes to primary research at various teaching hospitals and medical institutes. Read the history of discovery of mRNA and you will find littered through it various institutions, most of them funded in one way or another by tax money. Whether through a "non-profit" institute or directly via taxpayer this is not unique; indeed virtually all of our pharmaceutical breakthrough have, in fact, traced directly to said public funds.

    The problem is what happens next: Some firm gets their hands on it, commercializes it, and seizes the patents associated with it. But.... how? Well, mostly because they can, and because we let them. We do not insist that you actually originate anything in that regard, and in fact we go even further, allowing people like Fauci to have their names on some of these patents, meaning they get to collect royalties. Indeed, the ACIP, a committee of the CDC which recommends vaccinations, has sitting on its committee members who hold patents on the compounds in question and receive money from the companies that make the products. This is an outrageous and obvious conflict of interest that nobody has put a stop to for decades.
    You also had a pair of "platforms" called "mRNA" that the companies had been trying to use for other things -- specifically, against serious chronic diseases (didn't I just comment on that? I think I did.) They didn't work; using doses large enough to provide benefit in animal testing they all failed on toxicity concerns; in short you couldn't keep the therapy only where you wanted it and when it inevitably got into other places it did harm. The companies in question pivoted into the idea of vaccines (there are many in the pipeline for these, incidentally) on the belief that doing so would allow much smaller quantities to be introduced and thus avoid the toxicity problem.

    This is an extension of the dilution is the solution to pollution claim. It is true at a certain level, but the problem is that at that level you may well get no effect either. We're not talking about 10 half-lives or similar here where you go from 100% to one part per billion. Further, and perhaps more-importantly, this is a class of viruses that has never been successfully vaccinated against before, joining HIV and RSV along with a few others. The basic science on this virus and its components was simply not done before decreeing that the alleged intended agent of recognition (the spike protein) was harmless standing alone. We now have hard science this is false, and in fact had indications of that science, all the way back to September of 2020. This paper along with several others now show that the S1 component alone, without the rest of the Covid-19 virus, can cause clotting disorders.

    The next claim was that the "spike protein" would not show up in the circulation anyway when you were inoculated. That turned out to be fanciful bull**** as the entire spike protein has now been identified in the blood two weeks after the shot was administered and there was no nucleocapsid present, so the alternative, that the person got infected naturally in the interim, is excluded. In other words we now know that a believed-dangerous thing, both S1 and the spike protein as a whole, winds up in the circulation as a direct result of inoculation in a significant fraction -- about one quarter -- of those who get jabbed. Not only was S1 detected in the blood well above baseline in a number of participants paradoxically the entire spike showed up in some inoculated persons two weeks later. Both of these things, we were told, did not happen, that claim formed a primary element of the safety claim of these inoculations and that it has now been proved false is a serious problem.

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    Look at this amazing statement:
    Earlier this year ivermectin manufacturer Merck said there was “no scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against Covid-19” and “no meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with Covid-19.”

    In March, the World Health Organisation (WHO) recommended against using ivermectin in patients with Covid-19 except for clinical trials, because of a lack of data demonstrating its benefits. The European Medicines Agency and the US Food and Drug Administration issued similar warnings. It has however been used for Covid patients in countries including South Africa and India.
    Now, read the Denninger column.

    And from the Denninger column:

    Pharma will of course claim they've developed all these "miraculous cures" and this will stop. It's a lie, at least over the last several decades. The low-hanging fruit has been picked and where the current system focuses development has nothing to do with the conditions that impact a large number of people and for whom lower cost is important, rather, it is aimed at the maximum extraction of money from everyone even if you have to literally watch 500,000 Americans choke to death on their own spit by intentionally blocking them from getting known safe and possibly-effective alternatives, lest one or more prove up and your entire development path becomes instantly worthless.

    That's what we did folks and it is Satan-level evil up and down the line with the entirety of the CDC, NIH, FDA and both Trump's and Biden's Administrations, along with the vast majority of corporate and educational institutions "all in" on promoting same.

    They literally bought this "development" by allowing 500,000 Americans to die on purpose and you let them do it, minting several new billionaires in the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Now, read the Denninger column.
    "Many drugs and other therapies developed over the last decades have, in fact, been frauds to at least some degree. It is not that they don't work; most of them do. It is that they displace other working therapies without demonstrating a cost:benefit increment and, in many cases, wind up being more harmful that either the alternative or having no better benefit. But in every case they are more-expensive. The most-outrageous are "re-label" events such as what happened with Albuterol inhalers in which the propellant, but not the active ingredient, was changed and then it was re-patented screwing asthma suffers out of billions of dollars"

    "But in the pursuit of same in this situation any competing ideas for actual interdiction of disease were not only slammed as "OrangeManBad" in the media and by so-called experts without evidence they were forcibly suppressed with doctors threatened by their employers and medical centers, including hospitals, refusing even direct demands by patients and their families to use known-safe drugs in the hope they might work. Multiple people have had to sue to get these drugs and in most cases when they did they immediately improved from what was expected to be a fatal outcome, survived, went home and recovered.

    We in fact had more data that suggested these drugs were effective than what they had for the jabs all through 2020 and thus irrelevant to anyone infected before 2021 in that a person infected prior to the release of the shots can't possibly benefit from what doesn't exist.

    In other words we actually deliberately withheld known safe agents from people for the explicit purpose of making sure the development pipeline for these shots was not derailed. We did not know if the pipeline would be derailed by widespread early use of these drugs but we did not try, on purpose, because if even one drug worked that would have been the end of the EUAs -- all of them. A demonstration of widespread successful use would prevent the issuance of these EUAs and in fact even after issue such evidence legally requires the withdrawal of said EUA. Under the law an EUA requires that no other effective treatment be known.

    Under section 564 of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (FD&C Act), when the Secretary of HHS declares that an emergency use authorization is appropriate, FDA may authorize unapproved medical products or unapproved uses of approved medical products to be used in an emergency to diagnose, treat, or prevent serious or life-threatening diseases or conditions caused by CBRN threat agents when certain criteria are met, including there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives.

    All of these alternative drugs were previously approved for other conditions. There is thus no argument to be made that said drugs were not "approved"; all are approved under regular FDA provisions. None of them are experimental.

    All are also readily available as they are used for other conditions and, being generic compounds can be sourced rapidly and inexpensively. In other words nobody makes billions on patents.
    Therefore it was utterly necessary, in order to get and maintain EUAs, to prevent any potential demonstration that these alternatives were adequate (that is, they worked.) "

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Look at this amazing statement:
    And maybe this is one of the reasons why Merk decided to disavow it's once beloved child Ivermectin.
    Merck and Ridgeback Biotherapeutics Provide Update on Progress of Clinical Development Program for Molnupiravir, an Investigational Oral Therapeutic for the Treatment of Mild-to-Moderate COVID-19 - Merck.com

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    Wonder how chemically similar it is to ivermectin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpalios View Post
    Covid did not kill anyone in my family.
    The only way that covid kills anyone is if they are taken to the hospital. It is our job not to let our family members go to the hospital until the whole thing blows over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David A. Rowe View Post
    I'm not sure why everyone took my warnings of Islam (and Marxism) as support of Israel. I barely care about the next state over, and only insomuch as it affects mine. I'm not one to feign affections for people I've never met. I sort of admire the Israelis for their willingness to use any and all means necessary to ensure the survival of their people, but I also thing if you're one of those people who blames ZE JEWS for everything you're a fucking idiot.

    It's a silly idea. The United States could shut off our borders today and thrive for a thousand years without another country. How could 8-10 million people of any group change that?

    It's ideas that are dangerous.
    I agree with what you say in theory, but in practice the pro-Israel lobby is the most powerful influence in US politics.

    You're right when to emphasize what a tiny, insignificant nation Israel is... Their main export is diamonds (mined abroad) for god's sake.

    In noticing this, and examining disproportionate power relationships, I don't think it equates to blaming "ZE JEWS" for everything, but groups like the ADL disagree.

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    A simple update from Ivor about the current risk. It's fascinating that this is still with the comorbidity rate and reliant on PCR.

    Ultimate Risk Update - The Bottom Line from Real World Data! - YouTube

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