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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovan Dragisic View Post
    A dude much smarter and more accomplished than everyone here put together talking in a language some people might understand and thus save themselves some needless panicking.
    Wasn't his main argument that we are nearing a time of revolution and collapse for at least a few years? If a new system has the possibility to mean a China-like police state or one where Ray Dalio gets to decide how wealth is distributed, I feel justified in panicking. GDP is not the sole predictor of quality of life, especially in a country where the poor are obese, rather than emaciated.

    Ray is simply repeating many of the mistakes of history; He appears to believe he knows the keys to make top down monetary systems and socialism succeed this time; Marx and all of the intelligent people of the past who demonstrated the failures of socialism every time, were simply were not as intelligent as the great Dalio.

    His pro-China stance is also very concerning. He may well have financial interests involved, but the idea that we should be thanking China for what they have done is ludicrous.

    Quote Originally Posted by mpalios View Post
    My point was don't vilify the media on one hand, then use the media to prove a point on the other. Wasn't even pointed at you.
    Was it pointed at me? I am sure that teenage girl who was sitting on the grass deserved to be strangled by the 50 year old male doc who outweighed her by 150lbs.

    I also want to say that if my wealth or my country's wealth is forcibly redistributed from me to the rest of the world, I will be pissed. My ancestors who fought and worked to build the country would be rolling in their graves. They were fighting for the freedom and wealth of their children, not to pay welfare to a stranger halfway around the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spacediver View Post
    In short, there are two points here:

    1) You're mistaken: deaths that are suspected as likely, but not laboratory confirmed, are indeed being coded as U07.1.
    2) There is sloppiness in the consistency of communication/standards between CDC and NCHS, which is doubly fucked up considering the latter seems to be a subset of the former.

    Again, I may have missed something. Correct me if I'm wrong.
    Sloppy indeed.

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    A British doctor taking the cost benefit approach - M Kendrick

    "NICE tries to compare healthcare interventions against each other by using a form of ‘currency’ called the cost per QALY. A QALY is a Quality Adjusted Life Year. One added year of the highest quality life would be one QALY."

    "In order to spend three hundred and fifty billion pounds, we require a return on investment of eleven point six million QALYs. If not, NICE would reject it"

    "if we spend three hundred and fifty billion pounds – in the hope of reducing the ‘QALYs lost’ figure to zero, then each QALY will have cost £333,000. Which is more than eleven times the maximum cost that NICE will approve"

    His personal experience with cases - ""...I have not encountered anything like it before. People are quite well, then they fall of the edge of a cliff. This is, of course, in the elderly population, many co-morbidities. It is, however, weird. Very little distress, then then oxygen level crash, still with little distress. They just go spaced out on you, then they die...."

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    Kentucky State Police will record the license plates of residents who attend church on Easter — and report them to local health departments for quarantine, Gov. Andy Beshear said Friday. “Local health departments are going to come to your door with an order for you to be quarantined for 14 days,” Beshear said.

    Another police-state tyrant masquerading as a Governor. How did Kentucky elect this zero?

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    A man in Philadelphia was dragged off of a public bus by several jackbooted thugs for the crime of not wearing a mask. This is what tyranny looks like, this is happening right now in the United States of America.

    https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/10/watch-philadelphia-police-man-bus-mask-video/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddy Rich View Post
    Kentucky State Police will record the license plates of residents who attend church on Easter — and report them to local health departments for quarantine, Gov. Andy Beshear said Friday. “Local health departments are going to come to your door with an order for you to be quarantined for 14 days,” Beshear said.

    Another police-state tyrant masquerading as a Governor. How did Kentucky elect this zero?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cody Annino View Post
    A man in Philadelphia was dragged off of a public bus by several jackbooted thugs for the crime of not wearing a mask. This is what tyranny looks like, this is happening right now in the United States of America.

    https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/10/watch-philadelphia-police-man-bus-mask-video/
    Michigan stay-at-home order now bans visits to friends, relatives, governor says | Fox News

    Better question: How does Kentucky and Philadelphia and every other jurisdiction in the world find people who are willing to be cops that will function as Jack-Booted Thugs? And how does a society devolve into a collection of snitches in 6 weeks? Were we ever actually free?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Michigan stay-at-home order now bans visits to friends, relatives, governor says | Fox News

    Better question: How does Kentucky and Philadelphia and every other jurisdiction in the world find people who are willing to be cops that will function as Jack-Booted Thugs? And how does a society devolve into a collection of snitches in 6 weeks? Were we ever actually free?
    *Applause* Exactly!!

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    The cops involved should be doxxed and hounded and shamed at every opportunity. They are disgraces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yngvi View Post



    Was it pointed at me? I am sure that teenage girl who was sitting on the grass deserved to be strangled by the 50 year old male doc who outweighed her by 150lbs.
    It was not pointed at you. It wasn't pointed at anyone specifically. My only point was that I do not take specific, singular media reports at face value. I assume they are misrepresenting the truth in any article they write. Like the media has completely misrepresented many of the studies and death reports, etc.

    I don't know the full story of the man on the Philly bus below. I saw the video, and on it's surface, it's terrible looking. But is there more that's not being reported? I assume yes.

    Hope that all makes sense. Again, was not trying to call anyone specifically out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yngvi View Post
    Wasn't his main argument that we are nearing a time of revolution and collapse for at least a few years? If a new system has the possibility to mean a China-like police state or one where Ray Dalio gets to decide how wealth is distributed, I feel justified in panicking. GDP is not the sole predictor of quality of life, especially in a country where the poor are obese, rather than emaciated.

    Ray is simply repeating many of the mistakes of history; He appears to believe he knows the keys to make top down monetary systems and socialism succeed this time; Marx and all of the intelligent people of the past who demonstrated the failures of socialism every time, were simply were not as intelligent as the great Dalio.

    His pro-China stance is also very concerning. He may well have financial interests involved, but the idea that we should be thanking China for what they have done is ludicrous.
    You’re totally right.

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