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    Quote Originally Posted by wal View Post
    A firearm amnesty is currently running alongside our national lockdowns, you can even leave your home to surrender an firearm which is considered a reasonable excuse to travel.

    You will see below how covid destroys firearms.

    Firearm Amnesty - Crime Stoppers Australia
    Yeah, governments really don’t want people to own firearms. As I said earlier, we still got a bunch of illegal ones left from the war 30 years ago and as a result we are running one of the least repressive Covid responses in the EU. It is significantly worse in the neighborhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David A. Rowe View Post
    We should have been allowed to do the job everywhere as soon as we were done in Afghanistan and Iraq. And not sidelined for fifteen plus years for "rebuilding."
    Nobody has been able to win a war in Afghanistan, not the British, not the Russians and now not even US. The Taliban is a loose group of warring tribes who if not fighting someone fight among themselves. The Afghan army was never going to be able to win without foreign intervention and the US would have to had stayed forever to keep Afghanistan Taliban free.

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    How does the saying go... A picture says how many words?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Railbob1776 View Post
    Had my first visit w/ a new doctor today for an annual physical.
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    When I told him I have not been sick this entire time and didn't feel like messing w/ what's not broken w/ an emergency vaccine that is known to cause some side effects and doesn't even entirely prevent transmission of the virus he gave me the ole seat belt analogy. You know it's like driving a car and not wearing a seat belt. You might never be in an accident but you still wear the belt because it will mitigate harm and maybe save your life. Actually, I wear a belt because it's the law not because I'm afraid of driving without one. And it's only a good analogy if the seat belt concept had not been fully approved yet, the risks weren't fully understood, and the seat belt could cause paralysis, strokes, blood clots, and heart inflammation.
    The seatbelt analogy is more apt than either you or he realizes:
    The Fraud of Seat-Belt Laws - Foundation for Economic Education

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    Seatbelt laws were the auto industry lobbyists' way of preventing mandatory airbag laws from passing, which would have been prohibitively expensive & would've cut into their profit margins.

    NOTHING to do about safety! In fact studies at that time (& even now?) suggest that the seatbelt is in many cases LESS safe to be wearing!
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    Pretty hilarious for those lobbyists that the mandatory airbag laws ended up passing anyways, but the two important takeaways for me on this were:

    1. WOW, my best friend who never liked wearing his belt and implied that it was less safe in the event of a crash was probably right!

    2. People taking the vexxine, and doctors pushing it, for SAFETY reasons are shortsighted at best and gullible fools at worst. You think big pharma doesn't have lobbyists as good as the auto industry's?

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    Lots of long-time-lurkers have been posting here recently.

    I bet it had something to do with the CDC's reinstitution of indoor muzzling rules a few weeks ago. Poor people, it was probably a red-pilling experience to see a government institution go back on its word like that.

    On the one hand this is exciting, to see more and more people waking up! At last!!

    OTOH, we need to recognize that red-pilling more and more people is not a winning strategy. The left LIVES for endless protest and indignation at inequalities, but the "right" and libertarians, etc., mostly just want to be left alone. "Normal" people don't have the energy or desire to constantly fight back against "the man" over stolen rights, so I think it's more likely this all peters out vs. building to some sort of crescendo once a critical mass of anti-lockdowners is achieved.

    What other paths to victory are there, though?

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    This is from ex-SF "John Mosby" of the Mountain Guerilla blog:

    Skull-Stomping Sacred Cows: Afghanistan

    Over the last two days, I’ve watched the news a little bit, after receiving numerous phone calls and emails from friends, acquaintances, and family members, about the debacle in Kabul. For those that have somehow managed to avoid hearing the news, the US-backed Afghan “government” collapsed, as the Taliban entered Kabul, having already taken most major cities in the country (they already owned the countryside). We got to see the American Embassy evacuated, in a blow-by-blow replay of Saigon, 1975, despite POTUS’ earlier assurances that there was no way that was going to happen.

    A lot of people are—figuratively, if not literally—suffering a great deal of angst over that. I know where they are coming from. I’ve seen some social media posts from really smart dudes, with really solid, meat-eater, bad motherfucker credentials in the SOF world, bemoaning this turn of events, as if it were somehow not completely fucking predictable, to anyone with an IQ high enough that they manage to breathe under their own power.

    One of my great friends called me last night. While most who called seemed to want to project their own thoughts and prejudices on the subject, so that I could validate them because of my (long ago) experience in that country, this friend just said, “Tell me what you’re thinking.”

    So, I did. I told him, I think a whole lot of people had a whole lot of ego and identity invested in the crackpipe dream that Afghanistan was somehow going to end in some way other than it has. Some of that was professional ego. It’s hard to spend the major part of your career—or all of your career—embroiled in an effort, only to find out that your retirement “party” is the final admission of failure. Some of that was the patriotic fervor of “But, we’re ‘Murica! We can’t lose, because God loves us!” Of course, that ignores the fact that the Taliban are firmly convinced, just as vociferously, that “We can’t lose, because Allah loves us!”

    I told him that, obviously, there’s a little bit of the gut punch feeling to the whole thing. I mean, I’d seen the video footage from Saigon in ‘75, but I wasn’t aware of that until at least a decade after it occurred. Watching it live is a little surreal, and the utter, absolute waste is disgusting. The waste of life, and the waste of resources and the waste of opportunity that those previous wastes created.

    Finally, I went on to point out that I have three major thoughts on it:

    (1) I lost friends in Afghanistan, while there myself, and many more after I left. It’s human to take a moment to grieve the waste of the lives of our friends and comrades. It’s human to think of tour friends and comrades who have lost limbs, literally leaving a piece of themselves on the battlefield.

    Here’s the thing though…Officially, almost 2500 US troops lost their lives in Afghanistan. Of course, many more died, after leaving the battlefield, from PTSD-related suicide. Nor does that figure include contractors who were killed in theater. But, here’s the thing….that has been over the course of 20 years. In July of 1863, there were 3,155 killed, in three days, at a little Pennsylvania village called Gettysburg. At Antietam, Union losses were 2,108 killed, while the Confederacy lost 3,281…in a single day, 17SEP1862.

    What people are overlooking is that we all volunteered. Nobody who went to Afghanistan was drafted and sent there against their will. When we signed on that dotted line, and accepted the paycheck from the government, we knew that serving in the military could result in death or dismemberment. Do recruiters lie? Fuck yes, they do. Do the recruiting commercials gloss over the realities of the potential for death or dismemberment, and focus on cool guy action sequences and offers of “free” jobs training and college money? Of course they do. That’s what they do. If you enlisted, and didn’t understand the potential risks, the only people you can blame for that is your own parents and mentors. It’s not been any sort of secret, for decades, that American popular culture and the political class, looks down on the military as cannon fodder, and little more.

    I get the “patriotism” angle. I’m from a military family. Every single generation of my paternal family has served in the uniforms of this country’s military, since the Revolutionary War onward. My younger brother and I both wore the uniform (me for 10 years, him until he retired at 22 years). Despite a father and grandfather, and a family legacy, that all encouraged our enlistments, as opportunities for service; despite being innocent, naive, rube, farm kids from a small, conservative, patriotic community in the rural South, we still knew the potential risks of enlistment. We got it, and we still volunteered for the job.

    Honestly? If I didn’t know them personally, and consider them a friend and comrade, it’s hard for me to muster up much give-a-shit for soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines who lost their lives, if I didn’t know them in life. I certainly don’t give a shit about the Afghans.

    I get the “patriotism” angle. I’m from a military family. Every single generation of my paternal grandfather’s family has served in the uniforms of this country’s military, dating back to the Revolution. Despite that; despite a father and grandfather who encouraged our enlistments; despite being innocent, naive, rube, farm kids from the sticks, we still were informed, and knew the potential risks of enlistment. We got it, and we still volunteered for the job.

    I get the “patriotism” angle. The first lullaby I have sung to each of my children, the first time I’ve held them, minutes after birth, was “The Star-Spangled Banner.” I make my children—even the three- and six-year old, stand at attention when the colors are presented. I get it.

    Realistically, the only Americans (because, let’s be honest, I don’t give a fuck about the Afghans. I can respect them as mountain folk and a warrior culture, without giving a fuck about what happens to them…) who suffered the losses of the last twenty years, and can honestly say, “Wait a minute! I didn’t volunteer for this shit!” are the children of the soldiers, sailors, airmen, Marines, and contractors (see below) who died, or were permanently scarred by their experiences. They didn’t get a voice in Daddy’s (or Mommy’s) career choice. So, sure; take a minute and grieve for your buddies who died. But, if you need to grieve for strangers that you didn’t personally know, even though they wore the same colors you did? Save that for the children who were fucked by fate. They didn’t have a choice. They didn’t have a voice.

    (2) Lots of people are blaming all of this on Biden. Hell, even CNN, as I type this, is very vocally blaming Biden. To be sure, he’s a tool, and the dude was dumbfuck enough to want the job. To be sure, as even he admitted (to his credit, as much as it pains me to acknowledge), he’s POTUS, and “the buck stops here.” (Of course, he immediately started flailing, trying to pawn the responsibility off on the military, but of course he did…).

    To be sure, he’s the one responsible for ignoring the guidance of the military advisors, and insisting on a total withdrawal, instead of leaving a small footprint on the ground, with a QRF and advisory force (which, to be fair, would present its own, even greater margin for debacle…). To be sure, he’s the one that is responsible, as the CinC, of calling for—or just allowing—a rushed, unannounced, middle of the night evacuation of Bagram Air Base.

    To be sure, he’s the one responsible for having intelligence advisors that allowed themselves to be “shocked” by the speed with which the Afghan National Army folded, and allowed the Taliban to roll across the country so rapidly.

    But…here’s the thing…We all KNEW this was going to happen. From a complete lack of a coherent strategic vision from the beginning, to the piss-poor job we have done at managing unit rotations over the last eighty years ( remember when servicemen were enlisted “for the duration, plus X months?” Pepperidge Farms remembers. Remember when units deployed to a combat theater and remained there until the task was complete? Pepperidge Fucking Farm remembers!); from the complete lack of will in the American populace and the political machine, to the whole “Graveyard of Empires” thing…we all KNEW this was going to happen. Period.

    Whether we left now, or ten years ago, or ten years from now. Whether we poured a few billion more dollars, or a few thousand more American GI lives into the meat grinder, we knew, as soon as we left, that the Afghan government was going to fold like a wet suit, and the Taliban was going to overrun the country. Any reasonably intelligent and observant American knew that. I guarantee you that the political class knew it. The military command structure knew it. The Taliban knew it. The Afghan people sure as shit knew it.

    I’ve pointed out, in my first book, and in any number of articles on the blog, that the Taliban, like any insurgency, didn’t have to win. They didn’t even have to “not lose.” All they had to do was make sure the populace remembered that, when the invaders (that would be us…) left, they would still be around. They did that. Through the initial invasion, through the surge, through it all, the people of Afghanistan—and it didn’t matter if they are Hazari, Pashtun, Tajik, or whatever tribe, KNEW the Taliban was still there, waiting in the shadows. If they forgot, overawed by the technological might of the Imperial War Machine, the Taliban would wait a few days, and then they’d show up, and chop off a few heads, as a reminder, before going back to sit in the shadows and wait.

    The simple fact is, anyone with an IQ above about 68 KNEW this was going to be the result when we pulled out, and it didn’t matter if it was Joe Biden or someone else. Anyone who claims they sincerely believed that there would be a different outcome quite probably also believes that their favorite hooker actually loves them…or they’re lying through their teeth.

    (3) I’m certainly no apologist for Stumblin’ Joe, but trying to put all the blame solely on his shoulders, is the kind of stupid fucking propaganda horseshit that keeps us lashing out at our fellow citizens, instead of paying attention to the motherfuckers that are really to blame.

    Biden has been in the White House for what? Seven months? The first US SOF officially hit the ground in Afghanistan in early October of 2001. That’s like 238 months…Yes, Joe Biden was a senior senator at that time, and as a member of that “august body” (gag. I just threw up in my mouth), certainly shares some of the blame, but the ineptitude and lack of conviction—even the outright malfeasance—that ended up in the shit show that we’re watching now? That rides on more than just Joe Biden’s shoulders.

    If we’re going to blame someone for unnecessary loss of US life in Afghanistan? Let’s go back to January 2002, and blame the GWB administration for not having a coherent end-state goal, and a lack of willingness to simply say, “Hey, fuckheads. We came to knock the Taliban out of power. Our SOF did that in 90 days. Here’s your country back. Y’all go do your thing. We’re out, motherfuckers!” It wouldn’t have changed the final outcome, but it would have reduced American loss of life dramatically. Instead, between the Joint Chiefs insisting that Big Green needed boots on the ground, to justify defense spending, and Cheney wanting to get Halliburton on the ground making bank, it was decided we needed to try some of that there Clinton-style “nation building!” Gots to get paid, yo!


    If we’re going to place blame, let’s go back and blame the BHO administration for not living up to his campaign promises to “end the war,” and pull US troops out. We’d still have lost those who were already dead, but it would have stopped the loss of further US lives. But, no, we gotta keep pouring more effort into failure, because sunk cost fallacy is fucking real. “We can’t let those guys die in vain! Instead, let’s go get a bunch more of our own killed instead!”

    If we’re going to place blame, let’s blame the DJT administration for the exact same thing. Let’s blame the DJT administration for making deals with the Taliban, bypassing our “allies” the Afghan government, thus ensuring the Taliban that we weren’t actually that concerned about the success of the Afghan government.

    If we’re going to place blame, let’s blame every motherfucker that insisted we needed to wait longer to withdraw, because a few more dead will surely stabilize things, and get us out “with honor.” Newsflash: there’s no honor in losing, no matter how you try to gild it.

    If we’re going to place blame, let’s blame all the fucking defense contract companies of Ike’s “military-industrial complex” who kept lobbying for more time and money to be spent, because fucking fortunes were being made there! (To be fair, I’m not talking about individual private military contractors. At the end of the day, every single dude I’ve know who went the contractor route, did it because it was a way to stay in the fight, “serving” their country, while actually making a decent living to support their families. I don’t even begrudge that, even if I despise the owners of the contract companies who were cashing in.)

    If we’re going to place blame, let’s look at all the congressmen (yes, including Joe Biden) who continued to vote to support the budget requests needed to keep up the charade that we would “eventually” prevail in Afghanistan, “someday,” if we just kept pouring bodies and money into it. Hell, let’s look at the voters who bought into the false dialectic of R v. D, and voted for the warmongering profiteer “representatives’ to get into, or stay in, office, to keep getting bribed by lobbyist money and junkets.

    To be sure, Biden is a tool, and certainly carries his share of the “blame,” but if we’re going to play the blame game, let’s at least make sure that everybody is getting their share of the prize. He just happened to be the dumb motherfucker who was stupid enough to want the job, when it finally ended.
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    At the end of the day? Sure, I’m upset, probably. Hell, I may even be sad. But honestly? I don’t really feel either of those emotions at the visceral level. I was long ago resigned to this ending. My only “hope” is that we’re not sending troops back in six months or a year, and dumping more lives into it. They want to kill each other? Let them kill each other. It’s not our fucking problem.

    Given the state of affairs in the world at large, and the US specifically, I’d say that right now, we’ve got way bigger problems to deal with here, and they will be even worse in six months, and worse still in a year. Fuck Afghanistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David A. Rowe View Post
    Our military, though fraught with problems, is not incapable. On our worst day we are still more capable than our best adversary. That may not be true forever, but it is today. Just in the same way that we could have a tremendous economy and generate more wealth through industry than ever before seen. We could take to the stars within a generation.

    Who is responsible for why we aren't doing the possible? That's the question everyone is ultimately grappling with. I suspect we're beginning to understand, though, if only partially.
    The military always struck me as this odd paradox of extreme bureaucratic incompetence with extraordinary capabilities. It’s true. The best leadership I was under always played the game, but got things done the right way when push came to shove. It was as if the entire chain of command demanded bureaucratic nonsense, but it was up to the SNCO’s NCO’s and a few good officers (I reluctantly admit I met one once - he was prior enlisted) to ultimately actually get shit done the right way.

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    New Zealand Is Locking Down The Entire Nation After Finding A Single Coronavirus Case
    New Zealand Goes Into Lockdown After Finding One Coronavirus Case : NPR

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    1 stabbed as brawl breaks out at anti-vaccine protest in downtown Los Angeles | ABC7 LA - YouTube

    What do you guys think about what happened in LA? Does it look like provax vs. novax to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    He's anticipating the the hegemonic shift from America to China, I just hope he's wrong about how bad it's going to be. I don't want to live in the "Weimar Republic". Scary article.

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