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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Harlin View Post
    I mean, Denninger is fine as a fun read, but he has admittedly been personally afraid of the virus for a while now, and he is pushing this insane Delta, ADE bullshit, which really has nothing to do with reality, it is simply entertainment for a specific class of gen-Xers, the loud but harmless kind. Governments adore guys like him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by francesco.decaro View Post
    Oh I am not happy, Rip. In another life I would probably be moving to Texas and join the rest of you people who still have dignity
    More than a few guys I work with talk about moving to Texas. We have to get out of these socialist states and reclaim our personal freedoms. Not sure if Texas is the answer but it sure looks like it. And we look at land for sale down there. Not in the cities there, we have learned our lesson.

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    Dr. Charlton provides wonderful distillations at times. This is quite concise: Bruce Charlton's Notions: What is the meaning of Establishment language? Manipulation versus communication

    When you hear a politician speak, read a press release or a media headline; you are not dealing with an attempt to communicate the truth about reality; you are dealing with language as calculated manipulation ('language' here including visual, symbolic, audio and other media).

    Manipulation is language intended to shape attitudes, thought-processes and actions.



    Such language could also be termed propaganda - that is, language intended to have a particular effect on others; albeit the usage of 'propaganda' tends to be rather narrower than what I intend here by 'manipulation'.

    This is why the Establishment are liars. They are not even trying to communicate information - let alone accurate information; They are always trying to affect our behaviour.

    Their purpose is to get us to do what They want. All 'communication' is just a means to that end.

    Real conversation treats 'the other' as a person with agency; however manipulation regards 'the other' as an object to be controlled. (So, for Them, agency is an obstacle to be overcome.)

    They will of course mislead and lie to whatever extent they judge to be helpful to the goal of shaping us. Untruthfulness ranges from subtle distortions, through selection and exaggeration, all the way up to complete fabrication; as when a person with a false identity simulates fake emotions to tell a total lie - in order (successfully) to manipulate public opinion.



    They do not regard themselves as purposive and habitual 'liars', because They are not even trying to tell the truth.

    They are using 'communications' in order to manipulate other in ways They deem to be desirable - and truth simply doesn't come into it.

    The distinction between truth and untruth does not exist for Them, because their language is directed at manipulation, not communication. Lies, truths, or any mixture of them, are simply means to an end - and that end is manipulation.



    This is also why one can neither debate nor even discuss things with anyone representing or serving the Establishment.

    While you or I might be attempting to communicate information to Them, They are trying to change us. There is a total asymmetry of intent.

    Which is why it is futile to engage with linguistic emanations from government, bureaucracy and the media. It is a category error. It is treating manipulations as if they were communications; it is treating intentional dishonesty as if it was an attempt at honesty.

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    Joe Roganís COVID experience, CNNís Ivermectin claims:

    Joe's COVID Experience, CNN's Ivermectin Claims - YouTube

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    Italy is fucked. But, it's been fucked for decades. It is only tourism that barely keeps the country marginally afloat.

    The Italians have never been known for any kind of personal resolve, individually or as a "nation." Those that showed any sense of industriousness and fortitude left the country for the United States and/or South America a century ago.

    They love fashion too much, in all things, even politics. Of any people anywhere, the Italians are the frogs in the pot. They'll go along with anything as long as they get their pensions and their vacation every year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovan Dragisic View Post
    he is pushing this insane Delta, ADE bullshit, which really has nothing to do with reality.
    Can you explain what Delta and ADE bullshit you are referring to?

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    Incidentally, I was in Manhattan for the first time in probably more than 18 months today. Absolutely beautiful day, particularly to be up on a roof on the West side.

    For those with any affection for the city, it just felt tired, like everyone's been beaten down (which they have) and just keep taking it. Lots of dimwits wearing face diapers outside. No business people around at all, for obvious reasons. It looks like Broadway is starting up again, but I didn't get a sense of any joy or excitement that would support that. There's a hell of a lot of empty retail and a lot of construction going on. It's quite possibly even harder to get around town. Retail was slow and quiet, even on 5th Avenue. Lunchtime was starting up, but restaurants looked absolutely dead, even with all the sidewalk seating.

    Fall and winter are going to be very bleak indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Harlin View Post
    Can you explain what Delta and ADE bullshit you are referring to?
    He is treating The Delta variant as if were a real thing and is constantly pumping the idea that antibody dependent enhancement (ADE) will kill many people. These are just talking points they obscure the real fact: this is not a new virus, the vaccines are either placebos or flu shots and treating the situation any differently is just gonna prolong the mental crisis. Bust this is what gen-Xers want, as their only meaning in life is to have something to rail about against the government.

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