If you’re a business owner in Virginia, now’s the time to move. Northam is trying to ruin your life. This is complete madness. Don’t let a maniac destroy everything you’ve worked for.
I know this wasn't directed at me. I cannot tell you how frustrating it is to not be able to share with you the myriad of things you don't know that would adequately demonstrate how it's not malicious, but how that makes it worse. And that's just the little piece that I know about. It's like if you tripped on a rock in your yard, so you decided to dig it up. Two weeks later you realize it's at least twice the size of your house. In reality, you've discovered a solid rock mass roughly the size of India.
In short: shrink all government.
If you’re a business owner in Virginia, now’s the time to move. Northam is trying to ruin your life. This is complete madness. Don’t let a maniac destroy everything you’ve worked for.
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I am not completely opposed to regulations, because they are often necessary to mitigate the consequences of stupidity. It would be better if they took into consideration the stupidity of the regulators themselves.
I have some hope because I am picking up on a rumbling around Seattle that is a "hey, wait a second..." kind of attitude.
Of course, many hear are "making" more in unemployment than they were in their jobs, so its a very faint rumbling...
But even they will soon see the there is a bill being tallied in the background.
This is an interesting observation and I've kinda wondered if that's how this will play out. People will just start going about their lives and the governors will back into it by lip service talking about opening things up.
Face saved.
You're of course joking about Taco Bell, because you don't understand that just because you and I don't eat there doesn't mean it's shitty. If people ate there and died from food poisoning, that would qualify as shitty, and the market would close them.
Let's see your data on the number of COVID-19 cases transmitted by ungloved grocery store employees. You do know that even the people working produce at Walmart already wear gloves, right?I just think we’re talking about different aspects of this. You’re saying the shutdown never should have happened, but that ship has sailed. I’m talking about what we can realistically expect to see if we’re going to get the economy reopened, and saying that gloves and masks on grocery store employees is probably the minimum public burden we can expect going forward for a while. It seems pretty fucking minimal compared to keeping restaurants, bars, gyms, stores, and lots of other places closed indefinitely.
Well, you got me here. The fact that all the bars, restaurants, gyms, and stores are still closed, many of them permanently, means that "standing on ideology" was a worse option than bankruptcy. The government won that argument. Congratulations.I know there are people that want to stand by ideology on this, but I don’t think too many owners of restaurants, bars, gyms and stores are going to stand on principle if given the choice between reopening with PPE, or staying closed. It may be a bullshit choice in many people’s opinion, but it’s probably the choice we’re looking at. Getting outraged because your PPE equipped Costco employee wouldn’t touch your receipt doesn't seem helpful.
While I know exactly what you mean here, I offer this: Epidemiology, in itself, is not at all disgraced by this. I've been pondering this for quite a while, that epidemiology is "doing" exactly what it was intended to do all along as a science. It is ALL about predictive models (ultimately hypothetical, existing in a vacuum with a lot of assumptions) and it has done that. Hell, probably done it well.
The problem is what was done with a purely hypothetical model.
What if it is in fact a total FAKE....a case of you find what your looking for and hammers seeing nails and mass hysteria fueled by the media....
Lets say Coronaviruses are already widespread in the population....lets say it's a bad flu season ....lets say that people who are sick are more likely to have a number of germs jump in them when immunity is down...many people are coming into hospitals from those traditional flu areas....high density population with poor air quality...now I know for an absolute fact that they are counting as positive for coronavirus anyone who has been exposed to anyone that tested positive and are exhibiting symptoms...their also , as been mentioned, considering it a COVID death if someones dies of ANY cause AND tests positive for coronavirus....so if you ADD these FUZZY stats to a bad flu season might that explain ALL the numbers...just saying
This is standard bureaucratic procedure.
This doesn't mean the field hasn't been "disgraced." Disgrace involves how highly or lowly one should regard something. For the people paying attention, epidemiology has been stained by this debacle and we're going to be immediately more skeptical the next time epidemiologists offer their, ahem, services.
The problem is that most people aren't paying attention, and since we already fetishize "science" and treat scientists as something between oracles and saints, we're already being told how the colossal failure of the epidemiology models actually means they're super-duper correct and thus we need to intensify the lockdowns because they're working so well. It's nuts.
Easy there, little shooter.
I am simply saying there was not a colossal failure of the epidemiological models. There was a colossal failure of the humans who interpreted, manipulated and made policy judgements from a hypothetical model. You can take a plethora of diseases and model how they *might* spread through a population. But its just a model. Real life offers variables that cannot be accurately modeled (for a variety of reasons.)
I believe predictive models have an important role in understanding certain processes (even if just a baseline of understanding), so I don't blame the model itself.
All of my opinions lend themselves to what I believe has been really happening: It now has very little to do with epidemiology or covid-19.