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    Professor Neil Ferguson Imperial College London (UK) v Professor Johan Giesecke (Sweden). A more nuanced broader discussion of the bigger picture re. the COVID-19 science. At 42 years of age, I’m with Giesecke / the older guys. Maybe wisdom doesn’t always come with age, but usually less ignorance does. The Elders often know better.

    Which epidemiologist do you believe? - UnHerd

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltomo View Post
    I cut my own hair today....
    I went through the same process. I don't need go to a barber again. This may have been Bill Gates' agenda all along.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Here is the magnitude of the disaster: The SBA is "administering" the PPP loan program to the banks who are trying to get the money out to the businesses that qualify. As you would expect, the government is having problems.
    Well, that one didn't end up being too difficult to predict.

    We can always look forward to a creative "alternative truth" phrase though; I wouldn't have ever guessed "P P P pacing" was the phrase they would choose to euphemize it.

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    I guess at this point it's hardly a startling revelation, but the skunk in Illinois' wood pile got outed:



    Flatten the curve! Flatten the CURVE!! FLATTEN THE CURVE!!!!

    Baaaaa!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Maybe you're missing the big picture, SD:

    http://www.theblogmire.com/the-unden...obs-and-lives/
    From the comments:

    Whitney Webb’s research into why this is happening should be of interest to readers of this blog who presumably don’t appreciate being lied to and sheep herded.

    In a nutshell, the West’s top intelligence, banking, military, big tech circles have decided they are scared of China’s overtaking them economically and in the AI field, information harvesting etc, and they came to the conclusion the West has to change (become more like China) and view things like rights to privacy and small private businesses etc as “legacy (outdated) systems”. Only thing was they also concluded that it would be unfathomable to think the people in the West would accept such changes without some massive crisis.

    And so here we are. It wouldn’t take the complicity of hundreds of big players in agreeing to release this virus. Just when “everybody went home after the meeting/s”, a handful of them would know it was up to them, as they have the means, to release the virus and provide the others with the crisis they “needed”.

    I’ll leave a link to a recent interview with Whitney here – YouTube

    Hope this provides some food for thought for those wondering why, why is all this going on? I think she’s on target, personally. Our leaders have neither the creativity nor inspiration to develop a successful alternative system that still enshrines the right to individual liberty and prosperity. So they just intend to copy China and use the virus as the excuse for doing so.
    A very interesting statistic from the LA Times in the video link: Less than half the residents of Los Angeles County still have jobs. Pay attention, Spacediver. Look up the number of "COVID-19 deaths" in LA County for us. It really and truly doesn't really matter what the fatality rate is, unless it's over maybe 10%. And the rest of this video is pretty dark too.

    Another interesting statistic: In four U.S. state prisons, nearly 3,300 inmates test positive for coronavirus -- 96% without symptoms - Reuters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robin UK View Post
    Professor Neil Ferguson Imperial College London (UK) v Professor Johan Giesecke (Sweden). A more nuanced broader discussion of the bigger picture re. the COVID-19 science. At 42 years of age, I’m with Giesecke / the older guys. Maybe wisdom doesn’t always come with age, but usually less ignorance does. The Elders often know better.

    Which epidemiologist do you believe? - UnHerd
    And again, from the comments to the article:

    Neil Ferguson has released his model. It can be found here:

    GitHub - mrc-ide/covid-sim
    Hmm… it seems this is actually NOT the original model Ferguson used for his apocalyptic forecasts, it is a ‘cleaned up’ version:

    “Before the GitHub team started working on the code it was a single 15k line C file that had been worked on for a decade, and some of the functions looked like they were machine translated from Fortran.”
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1254872368763277313

    As one of the replies to that tweet says:

    “Can we see the original code please, before it was cleaned up?”

    To be clear, Ferguson has not released the code to the model he actually used, he has released something else instead.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yngvi View Post
    We can always look forward to a creative "alternative truth" phrase though; I wouldn't have ever guessed "P P P pacing" was the phrase they would choose to euphemize it.
    Lacking any actual value, bureaucrats are instead creative with the language.

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    Adding to all the happy side effects of people listening to the Government's and Media's fearmongering. People are afraid to go to the hospital, until it's too late. Area patients slow to call 911 for illnesses not related to COVID-19 And this is in an area with few case.

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    How the COVID-19 Pandemic Could End - Scientific American

    “Unless a vaccine is administered to all of the world’s eight billion inhabitants who are not currently sick or recovered, COVID-19 is likely to become endemic. It will circulate and make people sick seasonally—sometimes very sick. But if the virus stays in the human population long enough, it will start to infect children when they are young. Those cases are typically, though not always, quite mild, and so far the children appear less likely to develop severe disease if they get reinfected as adults. The combination of vaccination and natural immunity will protect many of us. The coronavirus, like most viruses, will live on—but not as a planetary plague.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark E. Hurling View Post
    I guess at this point it's hardly a startling revelation, but the skunk in Illinois' wood pile got outed:



    Flatten the curve! Flatten the CURVE!! FLATTEN THE CURVE!!!!

    Baaaaa!
    This is just MY interpretation, but the lady doesn't seem particularly enthusiastic about relaying that info. But I could be wrong.

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    Another research piece on the virus: Prevalence of SARS-CoV-2 Infection in Residents of a Large Homeless Shelter in Boston | Infectious Diseases | JAMA | JAMA Network

    It's a study of a homeless shelter in Boston. 36% tested positive. 88.5% were asymptomatic.

    Make of it what you will, but this virus hardly warrants a total shutdown of the country.

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    Absolutely right Rip. Sadly so often the case that Creative Language = Ignorance sold as Wisdom, bought and swallowed whole by the naive hungry hordes. Case in point at a more local level is the shinier and newer RPE bullshit that’s permeated some strength training circles. RPE = Repulsive Pussy Excuses taking inelegant protocol precedence for some too stupid (or IYI - Intellectual Yet Idiotic as Taleb would say) to remember that the good old fashioned simple concept that weight on the bar is, was, and always will be, the best way to accrue, judge and program strength gains. Because it WORKS best.

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    From a staff reporter at the MN Star Tribune no less (very left-wing "news"paper): May 4 decision looming for Walz as Minnesota's testing ramps up - StarTribune.com.

    Notice the difference in the article title vs the front page headline, which is (was): "May 4th Decision Looming for Walz...".

    To me this is progress b/c it's reasonably balanced instead of just fear porn. For example, this gem:

    "State officials stressed that the actual death rate is much lower, because there are as many as 100 unconfirmed infections for every one lab-confirmed case in Minnesota. And due to a supply shortage, the state’s testing strategy focused largely on hospitalized patients and long-term care residents. That inflated the per-case death rate."

    Also telling to me is that news media seems to be reporting on potential problems w/ the food supply chain more and more lately.. Agriculture is _huge_ in MN, right on through the secondary education level, which is also huge in MN, not to mention that the one sure way to cause wide-spread protests would be food supply problems. Both of those lobbies are key to the MN DFL party.

    Coincidence? I think not.

    So who will Walz favor? Following his political masters at the DNC or responding to some of MN's primary lobbyists (not to mention out-state constituents)?

    A.F. Branco Cartoon - Off the Chart - Comically Incorrect
    A.F. Branco Cartoon - Walz Across Minnesota - Comically Incorrect

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