Openly admitting they are padding the numbers, and so non-nonchalant about it.
Do we really trust these folks to handle an actual crisis? << Rhetorical question at this point.
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Warms my soul to see guys like Elliot Rabin in New York City:
The owner of Peter Elliot boutique, he's 100% right, if a liquor store is essential business then clothing is at least as essential!
You’d look pretty stupid lying in a pool of your own vomit, in the gutter, naked.
NYC tailor re-opens shop: 'Why is a liquor store essential and I'm not?'
I know that quite a few of you will discount this information based on the source, however the numbers were interesting to me. Seems that Sweden's response to the virus has been less effective (in preventing deaths attributed to Covid-19) than the responses of its Nordic neighbors. I'm glad that information like population density as well as the specific measures put in place were included. It makes things easier to discuss.
Sweden says its coronavirus approach has worked. The numbers suggest a different story - CNN
"The death rate in Sweden has now risen significantly higher than many other countries in Europe, reaching more than 22 per 100,000 people, according to figures from Johns Hopkins University, controlled for population.
By contrast, Denmark has recorded just over seven deaths per 100,000 people, and both Norway and Finland less than four.
Sweden has registered 18,926 coronavirus cases and 2,274 deaths among its population of 10.3 million people. Denmark has had 9,049 cases and 427 deaths in a population of 5.8 million, Norway 7,599 cases and 206 deaths among its 5.4 million people, and Finland 4,695 cases and 193 deaths in its population of 5.5 million."
Except the lockdown was never about preventing deaths. When it first rolled out here in Ohio, the justification was reducing the acute load on the healthcare system so that it could handle cases in the months to come.
Absent an effective vaccine, the same amount of people will die no matter what. Unless a person has the means to keep himself cocooned indefinitely, he will eventually come into contact with the virus, lockdown or no lockdown.
I'd be curious to see what Sweden's hospitals have looked like throughout the pandemic. Thay would be a better indicator of whether the "flatten the curve" strategy had its intended effect.
The idea that the stay-at-home orders were supposed to prevent total deaths is rewritten history.
Rip,
Is this the longest thread in Starting Strength history? Just saw where it surpassed “The Movies” thread. Just curious.
Ngozi O. Ezike heads up the Illinois Department of Health. I agree, her facial demeanor does suggest she was not happy about having to answer the question in the manner she did. But much of the impression you both may be getting from her is her slight non-standard black accent and her style of speaking. She always sounds like that and it can have a relaxing soporific effect on you.
I have heard her interviewed on the local newsradio station WJPF and she came across as a sincere, caring person albeit sadly misguided in the approach she has become the public face of in this state. Her background is/was in pediatrics, according to her homepage. Given her race (did I actually say that?) and her residence in the Chicago area, she is almost certainly a dem party faithful appointed by Pritzker to placate elements of the dem machine in Crook County.
If SARS-CoV-2 infection is endemic and seasonal then it makes little difference in this little snippet of time that is Q2-2020 who’s numbers were lower in the short term because in the end they will all be the same.Quote:
Seems that Sweden's response to the virus has been less effective (in preventing deaths attributed to Covid-19) than the responses of its Nordic neighbors.
What will matter in the short term is who will not be paying their mortgages over the next several months...