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So what happens when Sweden's Nordic neighbors come out from their bunkers?
This article's premise seems illogical; or at least, the conclusion seems premature.
We've been told, "lockdowns" are about "flattening the curve", not preventing total deaths. In order to avoid overwhelming ERs. Remember that?
So to say that "Sweden's response to the virus has been less effective (in preventing deaths attributed to Covid-19)" is premature. TO DATE that may be true, but once the Nordic neighbor prairie dogs pop out of their hidey-holes, they are going to die anyway, right? Just on the long tail of the flattened curve?
If that is actually the case, if we haven't simply been sold a load of BS with this whole curve-flattening theory, then what Sweden has actually done is to not completely crater its economy to arrive ultimately at the same place that its Nordic neighbors will arrive at once the dust clears.
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I was referring to the new cases who have lost their job or will lose their job and turn to substance abuse.
I haven’t seen from a single “pro-lockdown” person what the tipping point is in which the negative effects of a lockdown outweigh the supposed benefits. We just all blindly ran into a cave to hide from the scary lion. Problem is, the cave is filling with water and, at some point, we’ll all just drown. How high do we let the water get? That’s what I want to know.
I believe this was the intent. Sweden is accepting more cases and more deaths in the short term in exchange for a shortened timeline and achieving herd immunity more quickly. This is the theory underpinning the idea of hashtag-flatten-the-curve which assumes most people will be exposed to the virus eventually and the goal should be to not overstress the healthcare system. Sweden seems to be doing fine in that regard, although I feel like a lot of people have moved the goalposts from "don't exceed healthcare capacity" to "don't let anyone get infected."
In the midst of all this darkness, there is a shining light in my very own city, Mayor Kafusi of Provo, Utah.
On why she didn't issue a Stay at home order,
"What we need now is sunshine over our heads. We need happiness. We need positivity. Jobs have been lost. Paychecks shrunk. Souls are being battered. Since the COVID shutdown, our valley has experienced a spike in suicides. Mental health issues are being exacerbated. So, shall I place on the shoulders of those already weighed down the cloak of a criminal order?"
There are still those who resist the power of the ring.
This is an incredible article:
https://www.heraldextra.com/news/com...67d171d7e.html
Yeah it's not doing great but as stated it has almost twice the population of the countries made in comparison with it. Also, Stockholm city has a high population density about 4,800 people per square kilometer, and has accounted for 1,287 of those registered as died with COVID 19. In fact, most Swedish cities have a much higher population density compared to it's northern European neighbors. Anyhow, whatever they say Sweden is still doing better than other "advanced" European countries such as Belgium, Spain, Italy, France, United Kingdom, Netherlands and Ireland per 100,000. I don't think anyone is saying Sweden is doing well out of this but it appears to be doing no better or worse than all European countries based on it's approach.
Sweden purposefully chose a path of not destroying their economy versus a knee jerk reaction based on incomplete data. Your assumption is that Denmark, Finland and/or Norway will not have a resurgence when they remove the draconian shelter in place, don't go outside, don't work approach. My guess is the virus will continue to run through their populations and they will then do it under the strain of economic recession and heavy unemployment.
I am not sure.....but I do believe that possibly....NYC has more unhealthy people overall...has worse air quality ...has major gaps in people accessing health care...
And I understand that Japan made everyone wear a mask right away...
They also have a more genetically homogenous population ( which can be good or bad depending on the pathogen)which could equate into a faster and more extensive herd immunity....