COVID19 Factors We Should Consider/Current Events

[spacediver]

Very sorry she was unable to be with her and sorry for your loss.

Thanks, appreciate the thoughts.

[Mainstream]

In the US , Government, has always tread lightly into the realm of public health versus individual rights....we had the right to refuse vaccination, blood transfusions, and life saving medical treatment....we could go to work sick sneezing and coughing up a storm...it was your right...not anymore...

A corner has definitely been turned....we will no longer be presumed well...all of us are now infected, contagious ,disease-ridden vectors of death...I wouldn't be surprised if cops will be given the power to stop anyone who looks ill....and cart you away...and even if they can't prove you have ANYTHING...you will be held for 2 weeks just to be safe...you're medical history will be part of your drivers license data... your health history public knowledge....am I being dramatic?...it all depends on how SERIOUS government takes this contagion idea...I really believe that if they see this as a serious viable threat, our civil and individual rights will be flushed down the toilet and much faster than you ever thought possible

[jklymus]

For those of you who liked part 1, check out part 2:

YouTube

My favorite person speaking on this topic, Knut Wittkowski.

[David A. Rowe]

I don't know why meta/fusion analysis isn't used more often in these cases, though we're so far beyond comparable situations at this point it's breaking down.

How many times in your life have you had a cold? The flu? When have we ever stopped a pandemic when it was novel? How many years, even with increased funding, will it take to make a coronavirus vaccine? All of those questions were answerable, without models or statistics, sufficiently enough to act on (or, in this case... not).

Now we're having to ask questions like... what happens when we've shut down all of the oil wells that we can and are running out of room to store crude instead of how long can we operate by selling it at a negative? Or what happens when people try to shift back to restaurants, but that supply chain is completely disrupted in the immediate sense, probably done for most of this year, and a lot of crops and producers are already spoken for for another 3-5? Even if they reopen, what are they gonna cook and for how long? Who's going to be buying it? How much longer can the grocery store supply chain keep up with the demand? The animals have been slaughtered, the dairy has been dumped, and the crops have been tilled.

We've never been here before. Will the rationing from WWII work AFTER you've created such imbalances and deficits in supply and demand? Will everyone jump back into working with grit and determination, or is everyone just going to go on UBI for the next five years until we collapse? No one knows, but my basic sense is that we're not even into the worst part of this yet with regard to the economy. It's absolutely a possibility that I'm wrong, and I would be absolutely THRILLED to be wrong.

[ltomo]

Now we're having to ask questions like... what happens when we've shut down all of the oil wells that we can and are running out of room to store crude instead of how long can we operate by selling it at a negative? Or what happens when people try to shift back to restaurants, but that supply chain is completely disrupted in the immediate sense, probably done for most of this year, and a lot of crops and producers are already spoken for for another 3-5? Even if they reopen, what are they gonna cook and for how long? Who's going to be buying it? How much longer can the grocery store supply chain keep up with the demand? The animals have been slaughtered, the dairy has been dumped, and the crops have been tilled.

We've never been here before. Will the rationing from WWII work AFTER you've created such imbalances and deficits in supply and demand? Will everyone jump back into working with grit and determination, or is everyone just going to go on UBI for the next five years until we collapse? No one knows, but my basic sense is that we're not even into the worst part of this yet with regard to the economy. It's absolutely a possibility that I'm wrong, and I would be absolutely THRILLED to be wrong.

Rent is due for many April 30/May 1. The guy who lives in the apartment unit next to me hasn't worked for an entire month. For a unit just like his, I pay $795 a month for rent, ~$20 for water, and $60 for electricity. Thankfully I have been able to work, but if the only thing I had was a $1200 stimulus check, that would leave me a little over $300 to pay for all my other expenses.

Now multiply that by the +22 million men and women who have lost their job.

My prediction is that the government will issue at least one more rounds of stimulus checks, harming savings and raising the prices of basic necessities.

If you haven't already, now is the time to go full Dave Ramsey and start living like your depression-era grandparents. The next 12 months or so are going to be rough for a lot of people.

[RKC]

I shall ponder this, not at all, as I don't take estrogen.

Really starting to think the tinfoil hat folks might actually by right..... NWO and Illuminati and controlling elites. Lizard people?

NO way I would have believed we would be here if you had told me this before spring break....now I am pondering if the Lizard people might be real.

I need to get out more.

sb

It’s time you and I discuss the Denver Airport...

[jklymus]

Posted this a few times in this thread, but they keep updating it so it's relevant:

Facts about Covid-19 – Swiss Propaganda Research

Some interesting points:

According to data from the best-studied countries such as South Korea, Iceland, Germany and Denmark, the overall lethality of Covid19 is between 0.1% and 0.4% and thus up to twenty times lower than initially assumed by the WHO.

50% to 80% of test-positive individuals remain symptom-free. Even among the 70 to 79 year old persons about 60% remain symptom-free, many more show only mild symptoms.

Many media reports of young and healthy people dying from Covid19 have proven to be false upon closer inspection. Many of these people either did not die from Covid19 or they in fact had serious preconditions (such as undiagnosed leukaemia).

The often shown exponential curves of “corona cases” are misleading, since the number of tests also increases exponentially. In most countries, the ratio of positive tests to total tests either remains constant between 5% to 25% or increases rather slowly.

Countries without lockdowns and contact bans, such as Japan, South Korea and Sweden, have not experienced a more negative course of events than other countries. This might call into question the effectiveness of such far-reaching measures.

According to leading lung specialists, invasive ventilation of Covid19 patients is often counterproductive and causes additional damage to the lungs.

The Californian physician Dr. Dan Erickson described his observations regarding Covid19 in a much-noticed press briefing. Hospitals and intensive care units in California and other states have remained largely empty so far. Dr. Erickson reports that doctors from several US states have been „pressured“ to issue death certificates mentioning Covid19, even though they themselves did not agree.

Dr. Erickson recommends quarantining only the sick and not the healthy or the whole society, as this could have negative effects on health and psyche.

Dr. Erickson estimates the lethality of Covid-19 to be about 0.1% or similar to influenza. According to Dr Erickson, a face mask only makes sense in acute situations such as in hospital, but not in everyday life. (Note: Youtube deleted the press briefing after it had 5 million views. You’ll find a backup here.)

In 2019, a WHO study found „little to no scientific evidence“ for the effectiveness of measures such as „social distancing“, travel restrictions and lockdowns. (Original study)

[Soule]

I shall ponder this, not at all, as I don't take estrogen.

Really starting to think the tinfoil hat folks might actually by right.....NWO and Illuminati and controlling elites. Lizard people?

NO way I would have believed we would be here if you had told me this before spring break....now I am pondering if the Lizard people might be real.

I need to get out more.

sb

Well, injecting testosterone will also increase your estrogen. so double up on the test, boys, like i told ya a month ago!

[Mark Rippetoe]

The Californian physician Dr. Dan Erickson described his observations regarding Covid19 in a much-noticed press briefing. Hospitals and intensive care units in California and other states have remained largely empty so far. Dr. Erickson reports that doctors from several US states have been „pressured“ to issue death certificates mentioning Covid19, even though they themselves did not agree.

Dr. Erickson recommends quarantining only the sick and not the healthy or the whole society, as this could have negative effects on health and psyche.

Dr. Erickson estimates the lethality of Covid-19 to be about 0.1% or similar to influenza. According to Dr Erickson, a face mask only makes sense in acute situations such as in hospital, but not in everyday life. (Note: Youtube deleted the press briefing after it had 5 million views. You’ll find a backup here.)

Youtube has taken the video down.

YouTube issues statement on removal of controversial video interview with Bakersfield doctors

Well played, Youtube. I guess this gets my shit taken down too? Probably not.

[Alexander Dargatz]

I guess this gets my shit taken down too? Probably not.

Maybe when you get 5 million views as well. I'll try and help with that. Normally, I watch every video only once, but I can re-watch the last one. Chase was hilarious in that.