COVID19 Factors We Should Consider/Current Events

[Barry Charles]

Listen to this at 16:30 After Hearing This You Won’t Ever Want To Vaccinate Yourself Or Your Kids Ever Again

And then tell me why abortion is so important to these people. It is an industry that supplies raw materials to Big Pharma. This may make you physically sick.

Stem cells for stem cell therapy are often harvested from aborted fetuses. As this is a trendy, elective and expensive way to do what ever magic it’s supposed to do, it explains financial incentive for abortion too. (Admittedly, advances provide some therapies based on self donation.)

Also note, none of this should be confused with stem cell transplant which is for aggressive and advanced oncology and has nothing to do with fetal tissue.

[Robert Santana]

Not sure if this silliness made it in here yet.

FDA says Sudafed, Benadryl, other decongestants don't work

[Mark Rippetoe]

Not sure if this silliness made it in here yet.

FDA says Sudafed, Benadryl, other decongestants don't work

But the same FDA said the covid vaccines DID work, right? These people are completely full of shit.

[johnst_nhb]

But the same FDA said the covid vaccines DID work, right? These people are completely full of shit.

I agree with your sentiment on the FDA and “vaccine.”

To be clear, only certain formulations of those products containing phenylephrine are targeted.

Fun fact: phenyephrine has been known for years (decades?) to be ineffective. FDA is just getting around to it.

However the effective ingredient in decongestants, diphenhydramine (the actual anti-histamine found in Benadryl, etc.) is not part of this. Only products with the aforementioned are affected and it will simply be removed from the formulation. It’s effectively like removing any inert ingredient.

The media simply has to lie. The headlines on this are bullshit and everyone on this thread should immediately be suspicious of headlines like these.

Now 3/4 of the country thinks they are pulling Benadryl.

[Gilead]

Not sure if this silliness made it in here yet.

FDA says Sudafed, Benadryl, other decongestants don't work

Probably because they can't come up with their "Pizzo protection fees", unlike the vax companies who have it all worked out.
https://x.com/Inversionism/status/17...7OiVcOwzA&s=09

[Jenni]

However, I am an attorney and thus have something to say about law and society.

That's a very interesting statement.

I don't agree that every person is their own authority. People who don't believe in God often take this tack -- they set their own morality. That might work if you are living an isolated life, but we live in a society. By choosing to be a member of society, you give up certain freedoms. Of course the Government can go rogue, and at some point the governed will rebel. But I think we are in the predicament we are in because our system of government was premised on a virtuous, educated, self-sufficient, and dare I say religious populace. We are no longer that. As much as I am a sincere libertarian, I shudder to think what would happen if everyone decided to live by their own authority.

People who believe in God also choose their morality. They have to wrestle with what's right and wrong, too. But aside from that, it's interesting you are equating society and government and the law. I actually think that everyone living by their own authority might be an improvement, if a chaotic one. I think messy freedom is preferable to neat adherence. I think people thinking things out for themselves rather than being spoon-fed by the media or the "experts" (who so rarely are) is preferable. It may not be as neat. It may not offer as many job opportunities for lawyers, but I think it's one of the few paths back to a real society of free people. I think all governments go rogue- that's the point of not giving them a lot of power over people. You are free to think that people need to be constrained by something or things that make you shudder will happen. I think those bad things are going to happen and curtailing freedom can't be exchanged for the reassurance of keeping those bad things at bay.

Your way is top down. What's the incentive? The incentive to behave for leaders and peers you don't know or believe in? The incentive to curtail freedoms to participate in a society you don't agree with or recognize? Why should we sacrifice our individual selves on the alter of The Common Good? Ironically, you hand back the freedom and the virtuousness will likely re-emerge. The education certainly will. I don't think it's top down. We don't need the government to keep us in check.

And you can hold a position like Jenni, which is fair and good -- I appreciate people who value personal liberty and obligation, but you're all figuratively lining up to fight a war with muskets and cannons abreast against drones and lasers.

Pffft, speak for yourself bucko. Imma learn to hack that shit. But seriously, what are we gonna do? Not fight?

Woke is a luxury belief for most people.

This. So much this. The minute the shit really hits the fan, it's over, normalcy will return by necessity.

[Mark Rippetoe]

That's a very interesting statement.

People who believe in God also choose their morality. They have to wrestle with what's right and wrong, too. But aside from that, it's interesting you are equating society and government and the law. I actually think that everyone living by their own authority might be an improvement, if a chaotic one. I think messy freedom is preferable to neat adherence. I think people thinking things out for themselves rather than being spoon-fed by the media or the "experts" (who so rarely are) is preferable. It may not be as neat. It may not offer as many job opportunities for lawyers, but I think it's one of the few paths back to a real society of free people. I think all governments go rogue- that's the point of not giving them a lot of power over people. You are free to think that people need to be constrained by something or things that make you shudder will happen. I think those bad things are going to happen and curtailing freedom can't be exchanged for the reassurance of keeping those bad things at bay.

Your way is top down. What's the incentive? The incentive to behave for leaders and peers you don't know or believe in? The incentive to curtail freedoms to participate in a society you don't agree with or recognize? Why should we sacrifice our individual selves on the alter of The Common Good? Ironically, you hand back the freedom and the virtuousness will likely re-emerge. The education certainly will. I don't think it's top down. We don't need the government to keep us in check.

Pffft, speak for yourself bucko. Imma learn to hack that shit. But seriously, what are we gonna do? Not fight?
This. So much this. The minute the shit really hits the fan, it's over, normalcy will return by necessity.

Goddammit Jenni, how many shirts have we sent you?

[Gilead]

‘Unconscionable’: FDA Approves New COVID Vaccines — Even for Infants as Young as 6 Months — Based on Minimal Data or Testing • Children's Health Defense

Further analysis of US Nursing Home data proves, once again, the vaccines made it more likely for the elderly to die

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Dr. Peter McCullough Calls For Complete Stop To All COVID Injections - Not Safe For Human Use (9/13/23):

@P_McCulloughMD testifies in the European Parliament to end all COVID vaccinations.

“I submit to you the COVID-19 vaccines and all of their progeny & future boosters are not safe for human use.”
https://twitter.com/gunthertree2/sta...k0gx9mFYA&s=19

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[vkp78]

An interesting take on Vivek Ramaswamy

Vivek Ramaswamy's MSNBC Interview Gets Heated When Confronted with Past Trump Criticism - YouTube

[CommanderFun]

Pffft, speak for yourself bucko. Imma learn to hack that shit. But seriously, what are we gonna do? Not fight?

Government isn't fighting a war at all here at home. Their strategy is to do everything they can to keep one from happening. If it ever came to an actual civil war, they would not win. Their game is to monitor everywhere for sparks and snuff them out ASAP. So far, it seems to be working for them. Imagine how Iraq or Afghanistan would have went if the entire US infrastructure and economy were also concentrated in those countries, along with the US government having to live there. What allowed those conflicts to stretch on into endless stalemates was the fact that the US' means of waging war and the people who decide we are waging those wars were always totally out of reach for the enemy. All ISIS or the Taliban got the opportunity to attack consistently was our outstretched war appendages, not the main body or the head of the American organism.

This. So much this. The minute the shit really hits the fan, it's over, normalcy will return by necessity.

I find the idea of history cycling from barbarism, to reason, to decadence, and then back to barbarism to be pretty much on the mark. We are definitely in an era of decadence. Barbarism is probably coming next, which will not look at all like "normalcy". What we'd all really love is a return to reason. Reason seems to be the best time to be alive. Barbarism is a little satisfying because decadence sucks for so many reasons, but it will bring entirely new hardships with it that few are prepared to deal with. The wonderful things that reason gave us that have begun to crumble under decadence will fall apart completely under barbarism.

FDA has Gone Rogue - by Robert W Malone MD, MS

It should also be noted this agency routinely fails to do the actual important job it was created to do. My wife has worked doing quality testing at a supplement company and it was an open secret the owner was paying off the FDA to just pass them on audits. Many of her coworkers fudged numbers just to make their tests pass.