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    Blowback: How Israel Went From Helping Create Hamas to Bombing It

    “Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” Avner Cohen, a former Israeli religious affairs official who worked in Gaza for more than two decades, told the Wall Street Journal in 2009. Back in the mid-1980s, Cohen even wrote an official report to his superiors warning them not to play divide-and-rule in the Occupied Territories, by backing Palestinian Islamists against Palestinian secularists."

    "First, the Israelis helped build up a militant strain of Palestinian political Islam, in the form of Hamas and its Muslim Brotherhood precursors; then, the Israelis switched tack and tried to bomb, besiege, and blockade it out of existence."

    Perhaps they undertook this risk because they knew the dual-citizens in congress would bail them out with financial and military aid (and American military lives, if needed) if things got out of control.

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    Arab countries don't want Palestinians for 2 main reasons. 1) It allows there to be a "struggle against Israel" that's ongoing and distracts their own populace. It also allows them to grandstand about hating Israel without having to actually do anything or put themselves in the firing line. If Israel exists then the power being unreliable can be blamed on "The Jews" rather than your own lack of competence or corruption. 2) They don't want Palestinians in their country as they're radicalised and will cause issues in their own countries for their own security services. I know the US likes to act like 9/11 was a singularly unique historical event, but the countries that spawn terrorists are also the primary targets. If for no other reason then it's easier to attack them.

    Palestine is a great idea for a lot of people. And like a lot of governments and charities, keeping the problem going is more profitable then solving it.

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    Just realised that NATO bombed Serbia for doing much less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiva Kaul View Post
    Brutally stupid. The modern word “aryan” means “of the Iranians”, not the other way around. A designation older than even the precursors to English.
    A bond between a predominantly Muslim nation and Hitler’s Third Reich may seem surprising, but Reza Shah’s determination made it possible. “Reza Shah proudly howled whenever he got the chance that his people were not lowly Semites like their Jewish or Arab neighbors, but pure-blooded Aryans – same as the Germans. He made sure the world got this message, too. In 1935 he issued a proclamation to the League of Nations that “henceforth” the country of Persia would be called Iran – the name reaching back in time to the country’s ancient roots and the Sanskrit phrase “Airyanem Vaejah,” or “Home of the Aryans.”

    Reza Shah and Adolf Hitler: Iran’s History with the Third Reich — Howard Blum

    Looks like old Johnsonville isn’t as stupid as he usually seems

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    Quote Originally Posted by IlPrincipeBrutto View Post
    Just realised that NATO bombed Serbia for doing much less.

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    Serbia had a death toll of about 100k.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Cox View Post
    Also, if you go back in the history of Gaza and the "West Bank" from when Israel won those pieces of land from Egypt and Jordan after being attacked by the arab world, the land was given to Israel by each country along with the people, who were basically the criminals and rogue element of both of those nations. They don't want them back.

    I also can't help but wonder if there isn't a bit of staging being done here by the arab community behind the scenes. If they don't take them they realize that thanks to the corrupt and incompetent global news media and the UN, they can turn it around on Israel and make them look like the guilty party because of all the "suffering inflicted" upon those "poor" people, regardless of the fact that the fakestinians deserve EVERYTHING they get.
    This is a bit extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnsonville View Post
    A bond between a predominantly Muslim nation and Hitler’s Third Reich may seem surprising, but Reza Shah’s determination made it possible. “Reza Shah proudly howled whenever he got the chance that his people were not lowly Semites like their Jewish or Arab neighbors, but pure-blooded Aryans – same as the Germans. He made sure the world got this message, too. In 1935 he issued a proclamation to the League of Nations that “henceforth” the country of Persia would be called Iran – the name reaching back in time to the country’s ancient roots and the Sanskrit phrase “Airyanem Vaejah,” or “Home of the Aryans.”

    Reza Shah and Adolf Hitler: Iran’s History with the Third Reich — Howard Blum

    Looks like old Johnsonville isn’t as stupid as he usually seems
    This is just... so perfect. Howard Blum convincing you to hate Iranians because they identify as white people. Just, sublime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnsonville View Post
    Looks like old Johnsonville isn’t as stupid as he usually seems
    Your original, incorrect claim was that the ancient word “Iranian” inherently denotes fanatical “racial superiority”. It is not supported by your frantic googling about political alliances in the 20th century.

    Just wait until you find all the swastiks throughout Asia. Casus belli against Bhutan, no doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan DCNT View Post
    This is just... so perfect. Howard Blum convincing you to hate Iranians because they identify as white people. Just, sublime.
    How do you stand on Iran getting nuclear weapons? Why? I’m 100% against it because I believe they will use them offensively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiva Kaul View Post
    Your original, incorrect claim was that the ancient word “Iranian” inherently denotes fanatical “racial superiority”. It is not supported by your frantic googling about political alliances in the 20th century.

    Just wait until you find all the swastiks throughout Asia. Casus belli against Bhutan, no doubt.
    It took under 30 seconds to find a rebuttal to your comment. You can take what I said any way you want, but my last post proves my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnsonville View Post
    A bond between a predominantly Muslim nation and Hitler’s Third Reich may seem surprising, but Reza Shah’s determination made it possible. “Reza Shah proudly howled whenever he got the chance that his people were not lowly Semites like their Jewish or Arab neighbors, but pure-blooded Aryans – same as the Germans. He made sure the world got this message, too. In 1935 he issued a proclamation to the League of Nations that “henceforth” the country of Persia would be called Iran – the name reaching back in time to the country’s ancient roots and the Sanskrit phrase “Airyanem Vaejah,” or “Home of the Aryans.”

    Reza Shah and Adolf Hitler: Iran’s History with the Third Reich — Howard Blum

    Looks like old Johnsonville isn’t as stupid as he usually seems
    You are like Donny with I am the Walrus now. Very much out of your element. It would behoove you not to continue this conversation. We can all pretend it never happened.

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