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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    Yeah, that's a popular historical rewrite.
    The official narrative, like usual, is the rewrite.

    The same people who will tell you about how honest Abe just wanted to free all those poor miserable slaves will tell you how we were just minding our own business and, out of nowhere, Japan bombed Pearl Harbor.

    You could get a fairly accurate account of things up through the 1950's even in public school textbooks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kitsuma View Post
    The losers are never the ones who get to do the Rewrite. But, a Rewrite ALWAYS take place.

    So, I'm going with my smirking Dad's take: it was and always will be "The War of Northern Aggression".
    It's amazing how many people will acknowledge some sort of version of "The victors write history.", but never actually apply it to the lens they use to view American history.

    Even more amazing is how the current crop of Leftist can be broadly correct when they talk about corporations running the world, the police state, American imperialism, ect., but still manage to be factually wrong in almost every single detail.

    It's like they're all on the end of the Covid Bell curve where a bunch of low IQ people did zero research, but still went with "I'm not trusting these people." gut instinct.

    The Abbeville Institute is a great source for actual history of the times around the death of states rights. They have a good mix of good writers and refer to actual source materials instead of the usual circle jerk of approved academics quoting each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitsuma View Post
    The losers are never the ones who get to do the Rewrite. But, a Rewrite ALWAYS take place.
    American imperialism began through subjugation of the states.

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    The commies loved Lincoln, and the Judeo-American Empire that sprouted from those seeds hates Southern culture every bit as much as they hated German culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Zaks View Post
    You gave up on the Libertarian Party, but if enough of you don't try to organize, you have an idea of what's liable to happen. What do you have to lose if you don't start with a few people who will tell their families and friends, and reach a few more, etc.. You may finally get enough people to realize that you are in it together. If not, as separate individuals you are doomed. Tell me why Iím wrong. I am going to die. Maybe before I send this off. Iím trying to help. I could be deadlifting which was scheduled for today, but I thought I will try again to reach you Rip. .
    Thanks for the kind words, Larry. When it's time, people will act. But care must be taken. Surely you realize that they monitor this forum? All the shit we've said over the past 3 years has probably attracted attention, unless they are far more incompetent that we already think they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Christiansen View Post
    The same people who will tell you about how honest Abe just wanted to free all those poor miserable slaves will tell you how we were just minding our own business and, out of nowhere, Japan bombed Pearl Harbor.
    There's rewrites on both sides for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    From Civil war | Definition, Causes, & Theories | Britannica:

    Civil war, a violent conflict between a state and one or more organized non-state actors in the state's territory. Civil wars are thus distinguished from interstate conflicts (in which states fight other states), violent conflicts or riots not involving states (sometimes labeled intercommunal conflicts), and state repression against individuals who cannot be considered an organized or cohesive group, including genocides, and similar violence by non-state actors, such as terrorism or violent crime.

    The American civil war began when various southern militias seized federal assets (forts, arsenals, etc.) in January and February of 1861. On 6 March, the southern states authorized President Davis to raise an army of a hundred thousand men.
    In my opinion one small thing is left out of your definition that would allow the War Between States to be considered a civil war. A civil war would be all that you listed AND the desire to over throw or change the existing government. The Confederate States did not want to over throw the North, but instead create their own - apart from a culturally and economically separate people.

    Case in point: The American Revolution was called a civil war at its outset, but smarter people (interestingly enough, a SOUTHERNER) prevailed and called it a revolution. Then the separatists gained support and eventually "won" and we were all taught to call it something different by school house rock, our parents and schools. The "guerillas" became "patriots." The intrepid founding fathers became heroes.

    The Confederate Revolution would be exactly that if but for a few turns of events, including the decision to not march on DC and the enslavement of Irish immigrants in New York to use a cannon fodder and the moniker "War of Northern Aggression" becomes well earned by the scorched earth policy of Sherman's March to the Sea.

    At the heart of the matter is this: The War Between States was not about slavery but was about the question of state's rights and local governance. I was taught that the question had been answered by the American Civil War as my education called it. However, upon closer inspection it doesn't hold water and the answer is only "we have more guns, do what we say." We come back to "might makes right" which was supposed to go away back in Camelot (King Arthur not JFK).

    Historical re-write or not, there are valid reasons to re-examine the name of those bloodiest years of American history and consider carefully what you were taught in grade school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Zaks View Post
    Why is Trump not jailed for contempt of court? When I last checked, he had 91 felony counts against him. The poll numbers keep rising with each bogus court case brought against him. Anyone who talks to a judge the way he has gets jailed for contempt of court. I think the Dems are terrified that the MAGA supporters are armed to the teeth and will go on a killing spree. I don't want to see civil war in the USA but how can the country change if the left wing professors and school teachers are left to teach the young such lies as there is no biology, a man is a woman etc.. Is there another way out?



    What do you have to lose? It may as well be the Alamo the way America is going. What can the Feds do? Send in the military? Nuke you? There must be enough MAGA military, police with surplus military equipment, citizens who are fed up including Mexican Americans and even numerous missile bases in Texas
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    to threaten the Feds if they start up with you.

    It's what we called in the 1960's MAD, mutually assured destruction. Are you telling me the Feds are crazy enough to get nuked and destroy everything? Even the Commies backed down when President Kennedy threatened to nuke them in 1962. The missiles were removed from Cuba. You know that.

    Please tell me why you won't make a last stand when you are doomed. What's there to lose? I hope I'm wrong. Rip, it's true you are an unbelievably strong human being who survived 11 surgeries and does unbelievably difficult strength training that would kill just about anybody your age and a lot younger.

    I owe my life to you when I sprinted to safety with bombs going off not long ago. Anybody else my age of 74 in Israel, probably would have died. I do no cardio and only strength train. You were the one who got Crossfit to do some serious strength training, and I somehow find an idiot trainer at one of the first Crossfit gyms in LA. You know who he is. He could have killed me with a completely stupid workout where I joked, "A__ It's a good thing I have traveller's health insurance because if I have a heart attack and don't die, the insurance will cover the hospital charges." A__ is so fuckin stupid he keeps pushing me when I'm ready to vomit my guts out. I'm so stubborn. I don't quit. I surf and take heavy beatings. If you donít believe me try it sometime in waves of a few feet. Iíve seen stars when I've done deadlifts. I may be stupid but I'm not a pussy.

    You gave up on the Libertarian Party, but if enough of you don't try to organize, you have an idea of what's liable to happen. What do you have to lose if you don't start with a few people who will tell their families and friends, and reach a few more, etc.. You may finally get enough people to realize that you are in it together. If not, as separate individuals you are doomed. Tell me why Iím wrong. I am going to die. Maybe before I send this off. Iím trying to help. I could be deadlifting which was scheduled for today, but I thought I will try again to reach you Rip. .
    Look dude, we may do a lot of griping in this thread, but that's all it is. No one is advocating for any type of armed resistance or domestic terrorism. That's 100% not going to solve anything.

    I live in MAGA country, and would people prefer if dudes didn't compete in women's sports? Sure. But no one thinks any type of political violence is a solution.

    Also... don't you live in Israel? Why is an Israeli openly advocating for this shit on a public American forum? Hmm

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