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    Quote Originally Posted by anticausal View Post
    On the topic of violent insurrection. If the right is not organized to the point where it can make a demand "If not X, we will destroy Y" and be taken seriously, it is in no position to effectively use mass violence as a tool. Sure, random acts might spontaneously kick off a sequence of events, but only with extremely low probability. And who wants to throw their life away for a near zero chance of it mattering? It's retarded.

    The American right is not only unorganized, but it is so confused, atomized, and absolutely convinced of a whole plethora of lies fed to them by their enemies, that any escalation to violence at this moment would almost certainly be disastrous. That's why the Feds are itching to get it now. But if it genuinely did happen now, I wouldn't be surprised if it devolved into some kind of nazi hunt where conservatives are more preoccupied with finding and eliminating "racists" in their ranks than the actual enemy. Whatever happens, I have little doubt that it would be anything other than absolute clusterfuck.

    So, I think the main goal of the moment has to be to try and un-brainwash everyone on the right who isn't a hopeless NPCs (there is nothing that can be done for the NPCs until we actually have power, at which point they will flip on a dime, so they are functionally irrelevant). With guys like Tucker now raising doubts about the official narrative of WWII, I have no doubt that we're slowly making progress towards discarding the enemy's mythology. But as it currently stands, the American right is still too confused and naive to fight anything but phantoms and themselves.

    Another thing to note: random attacks on civilians are probably nearly always Feds/CIA (via wind-up toys) or perhaps straight up black ops by unknown orgs. There are plenty of documented examples of the wind-up toys, but even without them, think about it. When was government oppression at maximum? During the lock downs. And how much mass violence was there (outside of black-on-black hood violence) at this time? I don't recall a single incident. That was a huge tell.

    When civil conflict is imminent, everyone will know. No one will feel intimidated to talk about it. In fact, pretty much everyone will be talking about it. What happens first will not be some ridiculous Clown World/Hollywood event of a building blowing up, or an airport terrorism event, or any of that psyop bullshit. In reality, it will start with influential/effective people from both sides going missing in the night never to be seen again.
    Remember leftists already have lists of "problematic" people and their addresses. They just need to give them to groups who will commit violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Zaks View Post
    “There is a movement in the West, angry in the street, protesting. Some call themselves pro-Palestine, some call themselves free Palestine, others shout end occupation. What occupation are you talking about? Do you mean in Israel and give Hamas what they want? Weaponry, territory, army, so that they can mess more with the global security?
    Hamas exists because the Israeli government wants it to exist. Period. This is well documented, and I'm not going to rehash it here for the third or fourth time.

    Look, you can hand-wring and whine, or you can dominate, but this mixture of the two is just obnoxious. At least your men of the past were more straight forward. Ehud Barak famously said if he were a young Arab, he wouldn't hesitate to join the terrorists. And in a 1956 eulogy for a murdered Israeli Lieutenant, Moshe Dayan (Israeli minister of defense during the six day war) said the following:

    Yesterday with daybreak, Roi was murdered. The quiet of a spring morning blinded him, and he did not see the stalkers of his soul on the furrow. Let us not hurl blame at the murderers. Why should we complain of their hatred for us? Eight years have they sat in the refugee camps of Gaza, and seen, with their own eyes, how we have made a homeland of the soil and the villages where they and their forebears once dwelt.
    What happened to this kind of straight forward and plain talk? Now it's all just "WAH! WAH! We're the Jews and everyone hates us because we're the Jews! WAH! Violence always starts with us, but it's coming to get you next! WAH!" You think this is a good look?

    You conquered a people, and in the aftermath you decided to let them live, but only so long as your boot remained on their neck and you kept them in a state of complete domination. Acting like this isn't a fucked up situation for these people, and that they simply hate you because of some innate Jew-hating defect, just doesn't cut it. Talk real, or don't be expected to be taken seriously.

    And it's not like this is all in the past. It still happens. I mean just look at this. A fat Jew with an American accent shows up at your house to claim it for himself, and when you object he says "If I don't steal it, someone else is going to steal it". I mean holy shit dude, why in the fucking hell would you not expect these people to hate you?

    And just to be clear, I am not taking an anti-zionist position here. I think nomadism is always destructive to the host nations of the nomadic groups, so wanting to rectify the situation and create a homeland is hardly something I can object to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anticausal View Post
    On the topic of violent insurrection. If the right is not organized to the point where it can make a demand "If not X, we will destroy Y" and be taken seriously, it is in no position to effectively use mass violence as a tool. Sure, random acts might spontaneously kick off a sequence of events, but only with extremely low probability. And who wants to throw their life away for a near zero chance of it mattering? It's retarded.
    The American right is not only unorganized, but it is so confused, atomized, and absolutely convinced of a whole plethora of lies fed to them by their enemies, that any escalation to violence at this moment would almost certainly be disastrous. That's why the Feds are itching to get it now. But if it genuinely did happen now, I wouldn't be surprised if it devolved into some kind of nazi hunt where conservatives are more preoccupied with finding and eliminating "racists" in their ranks than the actual enemy. Whatever happens, I have little doubt that it would be anything other than absolute clusterfuck.
    So, I think the main goal of the moment has to be to try and un-brainwash everyone on the right who isn't a hopeless NPCs (there is nothing that can be done for the NPCs until we actually have power, at which point they will flip on a dime, so they are functionally irrelevant). With guys like Tucker now raising doubts about the official narrative of WWII, I have no doubt that we're slowly making progress towards discarding the enemy's mythology. But as it currently stands, the American right is still too confused and naive to fight anything but phantoms and themselves.
    Another thing to note: random attacks on civilians are probably nearly always Feds/CIA (via wind-up toys) or perhaps straight up black ops by unknown orgs. There are plenty of documented examples of the wind-up toys, but even without them, think about it. When was government oppression at maximum? During the lock downs. And how much mass violence was there (outside of black-on-black hood violence) at this time? I don't recall a single incident. That was a huge tell.
    When civil conflict is imminent, everyone will know. No one will feel intimidated to talk about it. In fact, pretty much everyone will be talking about it. What happens first will not be some ridiculous Clown World/Hollywood event of a building blowing up, or an airport terrorism event, or any of that psyop bullshit. In reality, it will start with influential/effective people from both sides going missing in the night never to be seen again.
    To add on here:
    We will not be in the best position to effectively organize or take action until the former middle class and professional classes are getting squeezed to the point of undeniable pain; this has only just started happening in the US.
    In several European countries, like Britain, painful part has begun ramping up: Millions of UK households forced to unplug fridge or freezer amid rising bills | UK cost of living crisis | The Guardian

    We can and should be organizing for completely legal, targeted action; it should be done with decentralized organization, aimed at appealing to those who have already been hurt by the current regime.
    Efforts could include things like:
    -flash mobs protesting at migrant hotels (The Black populations in Chicago or New York could be convinced to do so very easily)
    -efforts to put more republican employees in voting or polling centers (a lot of older, retired people would see it as a civic responsibility)
    -starting or promoting fundraising efforts for families and victims of migrant crime in Ireland
    -fundraising efforts or service trips for Lahaina, Hawaii victims or East Palestine, Ohio victims
    -Project Veritas endorsed citizen journalism
    -Organizing school children to write letters to our troops in the Middle East
    -Boycotting Bud Light and Target
    etc.

    The smaller the effort required to participate, the easier it will be to get people to act.
    Incentives or entertainment value will also be effective for getting people involved.
    A person who has taken a small step will be more likely to take bigger steps.

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