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    You never landed on the moon Rip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Shenfield View Post
    You never landed on the moon Rip.
    I never tried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anticausal View Post
    It's not intellectual superiority. It's all about perspective. That is why I ended with this sentence:



    It has nothing to do with big or smol brains, but with people's biases. You simply don't think this kind of thing ever happens in the good ol' USA. But I think it does, and I think it happens often.

    I'm not doing any complicated or intricate analysis here. It's like the saying about trying to legally define porn, you just know it when you see it. I realize I open myself up to ridicule. But what's the alternative? Should I just play along and go with it to fit in? Like I said before, I'm not wearing the mask, even if you, Rip, and everyone else on the planet starts wearing one.

    My goal is not to convince you 100% that it was fake, but to get you to at least consider that the way you perceive political events might have next to nothing to do with reality. What do you think the probability is that I am right about this? Zero?

    The remarkable thing is that everyone knows it's fake at some subconscious level. This is why they call it a "miracle", and use language like "incredible", "completely unbelievable", etc. It's either divine intervention (and for mystical atheists like Scott Adams, "a glitch in the simulation"), or it's theater. The idea that what happened on July 13th was simply a string of remarkable coincidences that all fell into place to create one of the most visually powerful propaganda moments in US history is utterly ridiculous in my opinion. I couldn't believe it if my life depended on it. Divine intervention is way more plausible to me, but I just don't think that fits here. What happened was way too gaudy, and in that unmistakably Trumpian style.
    I wasn't being catty, AC. I merely used that rhetorically to demonstrate to you how it sounded. I don't know how you equate my perception that the coincidental head turn, and so many other variables affecting the timing and vector of the shots fired, was anything short of miraculous. That's my opinion on the coincidence. If you think I am so blind to the machinations of the political class, then you must have forgotten the body of my contribution to this thread.

    To clarify: I don't know anything empirically, so I make assumptions. I bracket those assumptions by extremes. Your theory, to me, falls towards the extreme, and so without evidence to support it I have chosen to disagree. None of my own ideas area set in stone, and I also am comfortable allowing my understanding to grow as and if more reliable information becomes available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    I never tried.
    Nor did anyone else, maybe?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wal View Post
    So you are a believer then?
    Yes. I believe Jesus is the son of God, and that he died for our sins and rose from the grave. I am a Christian.

    I just reject your silly American strip mall theology. "Oh we're all gonna get raptured up and avoid the tribulation! We aren't meant to suffer on earth because we're such special boys and girls!" It's so obviously propaganda tailored for Americans. And I think it's all quite ridiculous, especially the Jew worship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Cite an example for us.
    The "holocaust" would certainly be the best example.

    But with the advent of modern technology, it can go way beyond manufacturing history. They can create it in real time. Do you think they haven't been doing this? Do you think every time you see Biden, it's actually Biden? And every time you see Trump, it's actually Trump?

    CNN was famously exposed for staging Iraqi war reporting. And then there were all those ridiculous testimonies that were fabricated to persuade for different wars.

    J6, for the most part, was probably staged as well. Jovan was right. The "Shaman" and the "Podium Guy" look suspiciously similar to characters in an old etching of the sacking of Rome. Can't find it now, but will post it if I do. They always leave little clues like that. Very theatrical people, they are.

    And there is one more example that I want to present, but that will take more time than I have at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wal View Post
    So you are a believer then?
    We are not talking about a few thousand Palestinian refugees that are not only displaced by Israel and there own political party Hamas, but the mass migration for Muslims into the west which has nothing to do with the war in Gaza or the Israeli government.
    "For you are not a true Jew just because you were born of Jewish parents or because you have gone through the ceremony of circumcision. No, a true Jew is one whose heart is right with God" Rom 2V28,29.
    And there are not many of them.
    “We have 50 million Muslims in Europe. There are signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe—without swords, without guns, without conquest—will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades.”
    Muammar Gadhafi
    Wal, you are demonstrably wrong.
    The israeli documents and politicians did not talk about a few refugees here and there, they detailed a plan for sending the whole population of Gaza and eventually the West Bank to western countries; 5 million muslim "migrants

    This is not new either; israel had a secret plan in the 1960's they called "Operation Worker" to send Arabs to Europe by claiming the EU had a labor shortage that could only be fixed by foreign "migrants":
    Revealed From Archive: Israel'''s Secret Plan to Resettle Arab Refugees - Haaretz Com - Haaretz.com

    Gadaffi made a deal with Italy to stop immigration from its shores to the EU; he demanded $5 billion, but he stopped the immigration.
    Italy tried to renew the agreement with the new government in Libya, but was stopped by lawsuits brought against them by an israeli law professor at the university of Haifa (Itamar Mann), on behalf of the Global Legal Action Network (GLAN) NGO Italy's deal with Libya to 'pull back' migrants faces legal challenge | Migration | The Guardian

    This israeli NGO has been operating "refugee centers" in Europe since 2015: IsraAID
    It is directly funded by the isreali government.
    https://archive.is/h2zEP
    German Chancellor Angela Merkel awards IsraAID with Integration Prize - IsraAID
    …Through our work with IsraAID, we have seen the power and potential of the refugees we work with as they write a new story for themselves and their communities. It is a story of learning new languages, of adjusting to new surroundings. It is 500 people, Arabic-, Kurdish-, Farsi- and French-speaking Muslims and Christians, celebrating Eid-al-Fitr in a Greek school run by an Israeli humanitarian aid organization.
    ...in 2015, IsraAID has provided medical, psychosocial and educational support to over 100,000 refugees in Greece and Germany alone.
    Tell me, why is an israeli organization. like israaid is spending hundreds of millions of $$$ to operate refugee centers that facilitate illegal immigration into the EU???
    Is it because they love you and your country so much, Wal???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yngvi View Post
    Wal, you are demonstrably wrong.

    The israeli documents and politicians did not talk about a few refugees here and there, they detailed a plan for sending the whole population of Gaza and eventually the West Bank to western countries; 5 million muslim "migrants

    This is not new either; israel had a secret plan in the 1960's they called "Operation Worker" to send Arabs to Europe by claiming the EU had a labor shortage that could only be fixed by foreign "migrants":
    Revealed From Archive: Israel'''s Secret Plan to Resettle Arab Refugees - Haaretz Com - Haaretz.com

    Gadaffi made a deal with Italy to stop immigration from its shores to the EU; he demanded $5 billion, but he stopped the immigration.
    Italy tried to renew the agreement with the new government in Libya, but was stopped by lawsuits brought against them by an israeli law professor at the university of Haifa (Itamar Mann), on behalf of the Global Legal Action Network (GLAN) NGO Italy's deal with Libya to 'pull back' migrants faces legal challenge | Migration | The Guardian

    This israeli NGO has been operating "refugee centers" in Europe since 2015: IsraAID
    It is directly funded by the isreali government.
    https://archive.is/h2zEP
    German Chancellor Angela Merkel awards IsraAID with Integration Prize - IsraAID

    I find this extraordinary that Israel would facilitate the mass migration of Muslims into the west where they have and are now promoting antisemitism which is leading to a pro Palestinian sympathy in western governments, the very instruments that support the existence of the State of Israel and supply arms to keep them from being destroyed.

    Tell me, why is an israeli organization. like israaid is spending hundreds of millions of $$$ to operate refugee centers that facilitate illegal immigration into the EU???
    Is it because they love you and your country so much, Wal???
    I find this extraordinary that Israel would facilitate the mass migration of Muslims into the west where they have and are now promoting antisemitism which is leading to a pro Palestinian sympathy in western governments, the very instruments that support the existence of the State of Israel who supply arms to keep them from being destroyed.

    Don't you find that strange?


    Quote Originally Posted by anticausal View Post
    Yes. I believe Jesus is the son of God, and that he died for our sins and rose from the grave. I am a Christian.

    I just reject your silly American strip mall theology. "Oh we're all gonna get raptured up and avoid the tribulation! We aren't meant to suffer on earth because we're such special boys and girls!" It's so obviously propaganda tailored for Americans. And I think it's all quite ridiculous, especially the Jew worship.
    Ah! the "Rapture", that word which is in the Latin Bible, the Harpazo, the catching away of the Church, funny how this pops up now and then.

    Don't concern yourself then about this.

    “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven."

    Quote Originally Posted by mkm5 View Post
    Nor did anyone else, maybe?!
    Neil Armstrong. I watched in real time on TV back in July 1969 when I was a kid, the question is why go back there?

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