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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitsuma View Post
    I can't research this right now. Can you tell me if the following claim is true or falsei? Harris did indeed pose with aid in a plane (as she should since she's just another politician). The plane had a mechanical issue, so later, the aid was moved to another plane and delivered to those in need. If true, then I can see how the guy might get that wrong. To me, that Harris stuff in the interview was petty and trivial anyway because we KNOW all politicians pose with aid, etc. Who cares?!

    It is the rest of the interview that interests me. Was that all false? Was any of it true? Are we throwing the baby out with the bath water?

    It just feels like a classic damage control techniques at play here by the system, so I had to ask.
    Kitsuma, I am glad that you, your family, and property weathered the hurricane with minimal impact. Prior preparation almost always leads to manageable outcomes. Congrats to you for being properly prepared.

    Members of my extended family in E TN were also well prepared and avoided catastrophic damage. They, like you, emerged from the storm to render aid and comfort to their neighbors and community. As owners of restaurants in Bristol and Johnson City they donated food for those that lost everything, the 1st responders, local volunteers, FEMA personnel, and the National Guard. For this they seek no publicity or internet adulation. They did it because they are good people and it is the right thing to do.

    This brings me to the questions you have regarding the Ryan podcast guests and their self congratulatory stories of daring do and heroism. Ryan has addressed the most obvious and verifiable lies by making his mea culpa video and subsequently editing obvious lies out of the video that remains up today. The C17 story was not just one lie but a web of lies and fabrications. Not a mistake but a verifiable lies per Shawn Ryan!

    Are any of the elements of the rest of their stories true? Yes, mixed with fabrications, innuendo and out right lies. That is the magic of the fabulist, they include just enough truth to seem credible, then form a narrative to suit their objectives. Jonathon's original viral video used the same ploys. Sorting thru the BS in the videos is akin to picking fly shit out of pepper, not really worth the effort, so throw it all away.

    Another problem that I have with the interview is their recklessness in throwing the rescue helicopter pilot under the bus. Describing the heroic actions of the pilot, that are clearly violations of safety of flight requirements places the pilot in a precarious spot for no good reason. If he did perform the maneuvers, good for him because some situations require immediate action, but to protect the pilot from bureaucrats, they do not need to be publicized.

    What do I believe to be the pod cast guest's motives? Certainly not helping mankind thru altruistic actions. This, too me, is verified but the butt hurt reaction they had to someone else claiming credit for saving a young baby. Why would getting credit matter so much that it triggered the rant video?

    I suspect their motives are self aggrandizement, reliving the old "operator" days (real or imagined), monetization of videos, and fund raising for the Aerial Recovery non profit.

    Nonprofit Organization Employing Veterans for Disaster Relief and Combatting Trafficking | Aerial Recovery | Aerial Recovery

    Aerial Recovery 2023 Qualified audit report: (Red Flag) https://aerialrecovery.org/storage/2...2023-Audit.pdf

    Aerial Recovery 2023 990 Tax Filing. (Stop Sign!)
    https://aerialrecovery.org/storage/2...l-Recovery.pdf

    $3, 000,000 in contributions and grants, $797,441 in salaries and benefits to employees. $2,000,000 paid to sub contractors (people like the guests on the Ryan podcast). Form 990 Section 4a,4b, and 4c for details.

    Believe these people if you are comfortable with their stories, contribute to Aerial Recovery if you believe in the mission and trust that they are carrying it out.

    I'll pass on both.

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    So, THIS is how it's done: https://www.realclearinvestigations....s_1065396.html

    When the FBI originally released the “final” crime data for 2022 in September 2023, it reported that the nation’s violent crime rate fell by 2.1%. This quickly became, and remains, a Democratic Party talking point to counter Donald Trump’s claims of soaring crime.

    But the FBI has quietly revised those numbers, releasing new data that shows violent crime increased in 2022 by 4.5%. The new data includes thousands more murders, rapes, robberies, and aggravated assaults.

    The Bureau – which has been at the center of partisan storms – made no mention of these revisions in its September 2024 press release.
    And this: https://x.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1846495614302904449

    $6,000 per each black or Indian student, $4,000 per Hispanic student, and $0 for White and Asian students.

    This is actual systemic racism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Roberts View Post
    Members of my extended family in E TN were also well prepared and avoided catastrophic damage. They, like you, emerged from the storm to render aid and comfort to their neighbors and community. As owners of restaurants in Bristol and Johnson City they donated food for those that lost everything, the 1st responders, local volunteers, FEMA personnel, and the National Guard. For this they seek no publicity or internet adulation. They did it because they are good people and it is the right thing to do.
    I'm blown away by the number of regular people who, like your family in TN, came up here to help. They brought supplies and even heavy equipment....on their own dime. When I asked them what drove them to do it, the typical answer is: "I had no choice. I had to help". Every single one that I spoke with is a very strong Christian.

    One guy in particular helped me. He drove a trailer up from Charlotte, NC that has two showers in it, a generator in the back of his Truck and propane/water tanks filled from a local farm well. He parked downtown and put a "Free Hot Showers" sign up. He would not accept donations. After 16 days of running hard and only getting water-conserving camp showers, I needed a real shower badly. That hot shower gave me some much needed dignity back. The guy proudly wore a Trump hat and had a Trump sticker on his truck.

    He didn't get permission to set up that shower in the middle of our tourist district. In normal times, he'd been given a citation I'm sure. When SHTF, some of the petty bs goes away. Remember how kids aren't allowed to have lemonade stands? Or soup kitchens can't serve the homeless without first having the kitchen approved? All that bs is gone right now.

    Many Church groups from far away setup aid stations all over town. One brought in a big propane truck and filled peoples' propane tanks, gave away cases of pure drinking water and cooked BBQ pork for anyone hungry. These are Christian conservatives who used my town as home base and took aid to isolated places like Spruce Pine.

    And, yes, people in general like to take photos of themselves helping out. And, they like to post them on Facebook so their friends who contributed can see. I don't call this self aggrandizement.

    The whole thing renewed my belief that the old ways are indeed alive and well.

    Quote Originally Posted by David Roberts View Post
    I suspect their motives are self aggrandizement, reliving the old "operator" days (real or imagined), monetization of videos, and fund raising for the Aerial Recovery non profit.

    Nonprofit Organization Employing Veterans for Disaster Relief and Combatting Trafficking | Aerial Recovery | Aerial Recovery

    Aerial Recovery 2023 Qualified audit report: (Red Flag) https://aerialrecovery.org/storage/2...2023-Audit.pdf

    Aerial Recovery 2023 990 Tax Filing. (Stop Sign!)
    https://aerialrecovery.org/storage/2...l-Recovery.pdf

    $3, 000,000 in contributions and grants, $797,441 in salaries and benefits to employees. $2,000,000 paid to sub contractors (people like the guests on the Ryan podcast). Form 990 Section 4a,4b, and 4c for details.

    Believe these people if you are comfortable with their stories, contribute to Aerial Recovery if you believe in the mission and trust that they are carrying it out.

    I'll pass on both.
    Let's accept the lens through which you view these guys. What do these guys have in common with our Government? Does the Government seek to be recognized for its good work here? Yes. Does our Government need money from citizens in order to carry out this work? Yes. Are the Government employees here helping paid for their time? Yes. Does our Government through it's information machinery sometimes fabricate or stretch truth or take things out of context and mislead us? Yes. Do our Government employees sometimes exhibit bravado while wearing their impressive uniforms or their credentials? Yes.

    What's the big difference between our Government and these guys? Aerial Recovery doesn't FORCE me by threat of violence to contribute to their program.

    And, maybe I missed it (quite possible), but did those guys even ask for donations during that podcast?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitsuma View Post
    I'm blown away by the number of regular people who, like your family in TN, came up here to help. They brought supplies and even heavy equipment....on their own dime. When I asked them what drove them to do it, the typical answer is: "I had no choice. I had to help". Every single one that I spoke with is a very strong Christian.

    One guy in particular helped me. He drove a trailer up from Charlotte, NC that has two showers in it, a generator in the back of his Truck and propane/water tanks filled from a local farm well. He parked downtown and put a "Free Hot Showers" sign up. He would not accept donations. After 16 days of running hard and only getting water-conserving camp showers, I needed a real shower badly. That hot shower gave me some much needed dignity back. The guy proudly wore a Trump hat and had a Trump sticker on his truck.

    He didn't get permission to set up that shower in the middle of our tourist district. In normal times, he'd been given a citation I'm sure. When SHTF, some of the petty bs goes away. Remember how kids aren't allowed to have lemonade stands? Or soup kitchens can't serve the homeless without first having the kitchen approved? All that bs is gone right now.

    Many Church groups from far away setup aid stations all over town. One brought in a big propane truck and filled peoples' propane tanks, gave away cases of pure drinking water and cooked BBQ pork for anyone hungry. These are Christian conservatives who used my town as home base and took aid to isolated places like Spruce Pine.

    And, yes, people in general like to take photos of themselves helping out. And, they like to post them on Facebook so their friends who contributed can see. I don't call this self aggrandizement.

    The whole thing renewed my belief that the old ways are indeed alive and well.



    Let's accept the lens through which you view these guys. What do these guys have in common with our Government? Does the Government seek to be recognized for its good work here? Yes. Does our Government need money from citizens in order to carry out this work? Yes. Are the Government employees here helping paid for their time? Yes. Does our Government through it's information machinery sometimes fabricate or stretch truth or take things out of context and mislead us? Yes. Do our Government employees sometimes exhibit bravado while wearing their impressive uniforms or their credentials? Yes.

    What's the big difference between our Government and these guys? Aerial Recovery doesn't FORCE me by threat of violence to contribute to their program.

    And, maybe I missed it (quite possible), but did those guys even ask for donations during that podcast?
    Yes. They solicited donations during the podcast. Ryan donated $10,000 (probably wishes he did not make that commitment publicly). They claim to have raised a total of $800,000 for two separate hurricanes, Helene and Milton. They guided listeners to Instagram and other social media platforms where you can donate or go to the Aerial Recovery web site.

    Kitsuma, be careful out there, you and the rest of the disaster area are a prime target for phony aide organizations seeking to line their own pockets. Happens after every disaster especially during the rebuilding phase. There is no shortage of shysters and demagogues that will prey upon down-and-out victims that are seeking comfort. Be careful who you trust. Christians or otherwise.

    Your suspicion and cynicism of the government are well founded but don't let that interfere with exercising good judgement when encountering non-government aide workers from out of town. If you don't know them be skeptical and check them out thoroughly.

    Your comparison of Aerial Recovery to the government is a good one. Both are there for their own purposes, which may or may not be to protect you or your property.

    I know you are trying really hard to like these guys. I understand they have a compelling story, seasoned with all those "operator" acronyms and jargon, but everyone that comforts you is not your friend, and everyone that shits on you is not your enemy.

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    More shocking evidence of government evil/ineptitude: Information about North Carolina and the hurricane/flood response: Wendy Patterson on X/Twitter – Calling-all-RushBabes

    A) FEMA didn’t update the flood zone maps for decades so the people who purchased their properties didn’t know they bought land in a flood zone. FEMA didn’t do their job.- Maria in the Morning interview 10-15-2024

    B) Duke Power opened the dam that caused the water that created mudslides which then caused the roadways to fail and rivers to flood.

    C) The River monitors were broken and had been broken and were reported by homeowners in the area near Chimney Rock.

    D) No evacuation was given until after Duke Power opened the dam after the mudslides began.

    E) Video testimony exists of victims who didn’t receive evacuation notices until the mudslide events were in progress.

    F) FEMA Spokesman on Fox interview 10-14-2024 said that the Governor has to request FEMA. Governor RoyCooper was partying in New York and did not call in FEMA Search and Rescue causing many people who could have been rescued to lose their lives.

    G) Many of the Representatives in North Carolina were convieniantly out of state or town including the Mayor of Chimney Rock. – Video testimony exists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Can bash Cooper all you want to. It fit's my agenda.

    Duke Power isn't the government. Would you rather the dams breach?

    The Flood Insurance Reform Act of 1994 introduced FEMA into the "flood zone evaluation" task. So "decades" = 3. Reckon what percent of the US has been "evaluated" since then. My guess... areas in flood zones.

    And the footnote from the linked page...

    Given this information, I suggest that it is imperative that you all vote for President Donald Trump in November, to drain the swamp.
    "Rush Babes. Dedicated to the Memory of the Great Rush Limbaugh."

    :::facepalm:::

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    If Trump Wins, Guess Who Will Be In Charge Of Certifying The Election? | ZeroHedge

    Do you know who will be in charge of certifying this election? In January 2021, it was Vice-President Mike Pence, and we all remember how that turned out. Well, an even more interesting scenario is shaping up this time around. In January 2025, Vice-President Kamala Harris will be in charge of certifying the election. In other words, if Donald Trump wins the person that he was running against will be in charge of certifying his victory. This is a major defect in our system, and it could potentially set the stage for widespread chaos if things do not go smoothly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Roberts View Post
    Kitsuma, be careful out there, you and the rest of the disaster area are a prime target for phony aide organizations seeking to line their own pockets. Happens after every disaster especially during the rebuilding phase. There is no shortage of shysters and demagogues that will prey upon down-and-out victims that are seeking comfort. Be careful who you trust. Christians or otherwise.

    Your suspicion and cynicism of the government are well founded but don't let that interfere with exercising good judgement when encountering non-government aide workers from out of town. If you don't know them be skeptical and check them out thoroughly.

    Your comparison of Aerial Recovery to the government is a good one. Both are there for their own purposes, which may or may not be to protect you or your property.

    I know you are trying really hard to like these guys. I understand they have a compelling story, seasoned with all those "operator" acronyms and jargon, but everyone that comforts you is not your friend, and everyone that shits on you is not your enemy.
    I hear you. Thanks. I'm just along for the ride as my town and county will rely on FEMA for assistance during the Recovery phase. I know there's no free lunch. For example, I remember a block grant 15 years ago for a loan that included in the fine print (ignored by everyone): Refugee Resettlement Program.

    I think a little disorder and decentralization during the Rescue Phase is appropriate. Civilian aid was critical here for both practical and spiritual reasons. These groups imposed NO rules, processes, conditions or fees; they only gave and rescued. So, I have to defend their efforts. Aerial Rescue, for example, did not charge any victim or impose conditions, and...this is important...Aerial Rescue does not participate in Recovery phases.

    Civilian aid made us feel empowered rather than helpless.

    FEMA's centralization and imposition of "processes" during this Rescue phase got in the way during the critical first few days. For example, most towns here complied with FEMA processes and did NOT contract directly to immediately bring in tankers of drinking water. That alone is an embarrassment and I would encourage towns to create policies requiring the town to immediately act in the first days of an emergency like this despite FEMA's rules.

    I'll never forget the huge line of people waiting "for FEMA"..."for hope" (their words)...days before FEMA arrived. My town finally went rogue and brought in drinking water. I'm proud of my town and humbled by all the civilian aid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stump View Post
    Can bash Cooper all you want to. It fit's my agenda.

    Duke Power isn't the government. Would you rather the dams breach?

    The Flood Insurance Reform Act of 1994 introduced FEMA into the "flood zone evaluation" task. So "decades" = 3. Reckon what percent of the US has been "evaluated" since then. My guess... areas in flood zones.

    And the footnote from the linked page...



    "Rush Babes. Dedicated to the Memory of the Great Rush Limbaugh."

    :::facepalm:::
    Good points. Besides, these are allegations (may be true), not evidence. If allegations were evidence Trump and many others would be under the jail.

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    I believe it is standard practice, and smart, to open the spillway when the reservoir is at capacity and flood some people vs loosing the dam and flooding / killing lots of people. Sounds like the breakdown here was warning those at risk.

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