It's gonna be Zimmerman 2: Acquittal Boogaloo. Prosecutors are overreaching to appease dumb people who don't understand how murder degrees work. It's not "bad murder-really bad murder-worst possible murder", it's technical details of the killing. It has nothing to do with what the public's moral disgust level for the crime is. Although that might play a big role in the actual sentencing. End result is more outrage when they get off, and they blame some kind of "systemic racism" for the acquittal rather than the overzealous prosecution. The fact that people are coming away with the message "rioting works better than voting" is not good either. Because this is all going to happen again.
We'll see by the time the weekend wraps up. Some think it's going to flare up over the weekend for whatever reason. I don't see why, the majority of people rioting and even the people protesting probably on average didn't have jobs even before the lockdown. From what I'm seeing and my own small experience, these people are moving out into the suburbs and rural areas and it's like invading another fucking planet for them. Meanwhile, the people in these areas are not just taking it lying down. Even a lot of the outlying urban areas are rallying against the riot shenanigans.
Minneapolis police rendered 44 people unconscious with neck restraints since 2015 | kare11.com
They’re all going to walk because the neck asphyxiation method Chauvin used wasn’t banned by MPD despite most police precincts having done so. The article above states 244 people detained or arrested by MPD had this used on them since 2015 and 44 blacked out.
So, the expectation, in my opinion, of all 4 cops, was that George Floyd was going to sit there complaining of not being able to breathe and he’d eventually just black out - like all the others.
The line of “intent to kill” will obviously be blurred by the lawyers and all that is required to be not guilty is reasonable doubt.
It doesn’t make any of them lesser pieces of shit, but there is most likely a legal avenue rooted in “standard operating procedure” that will void them of the notion of intent.
I’m not a lawyer, but we all know how this bullshit works....
What the hell is going on? We are now being told face masks in the UK will become mandatory in public transport. The science now confirms not only do they protect people from the wearer but it also protects the wearer themselves. Talk about a u-turn. Of bigger concern the MSM have now dropped stories on the virus and have moved the storyline to a "race war". The funeral of George Floyd is being aired on all MSM channels; no social distancing or a limit to just close family members only attending the funerals. Talk about a kick in the teeth to the 100,000s of friends to those who've died that aren't able to attend a funeral of someone that they've lost during lockdown. MSM are pushing the narrative into overdrive and trying to encourage mass protests in UK cities. We've seen a few 1000 protesting in UK cities mainly from Antifa thugs and brainless students. It won't happen on a grand scale though as the majority of Brits are too smart to fall for sponsored provocateurs. Does anyone even believe this is still about a virus? It's an obvious smoke screen to remove Trump and Republican power from office. I'm seriously getting tired of this nonsense. Wish they'd just fast forward to December when we get the second wave over with thanks to the easy "died with" COVID deaths from all the undiagnosed cancer patients that are walking around at the moment. They might boost up the figures with all the additional deaths from stalled vaccine programmes in Africa (Est 80 million babies at risk). Just shoot me up with the mandatory coronavirus vaccine now and lets close the bloody book!
I tried to start a thread on the Floyd case here but it wasn't accepted. Since I see it's now part of this discussion I want to know if anyone heard they both worked at the same club in that town as security. One commentator on Fox suggested that Floyd may have known something he shouldn't have and may have been killed for that reason.
Seems to me intent will be a tricky bridge to build. Murder 3 was a stretch. Murder 2 will be highly unlikely. Manslaughter probably would fly. Although I wish Brodie Butland would weigh in on this. His read on it as a lawyer would be more solid.
Chauvin probably didn't kill Floyd with his knee on his neck. Although he certainly added to the (dis)stress Floyd was in. IMO, the other cops sitting on his body while face down is what did him in. Given the upper and downer in his tox screen, coupled with the discovery he had C-19, it had to have had a bad effect on his ability to breathe it seems to me. The dueling autopsy results only seem to obfuscate it his physical condition. But, as with the law, a read from an actual doc here would be useful.
BUT! Chauvin can't dodge his responsibility for telling whichever other cop suggested they put Floyd on his side to leave his where he was. Also, I cannot for the life of me understand the purpose of maintaining a restraint hold for that long. They had four cops. Pick him up and shove him in and sit with him in the Explorer on the passenger side of the back if needed. Finally, where in the HELL was command during this. It seems like four cops tied up that long on a call should have had at least a sergeant check in on things.
In this case, not only the suspect being arrested, but the bystanders as well had a hand in the commentary. As others here have noted, if you can talk, you can breathe. The 2nd medical examiner (for hire) Baden seems to think you can't. My own personal experience on applying a choke or strangle and having one put on me indicates otherwise. Same with the other people I trained with in the dojo I was part of in California.
Yup.
And then there's this. If Chauvin was following his training, the training provided by his department, it spreads the blame to the highest level of command and the training that was approved by command.
True that.
but on a related note, i believe the angle they are going for is to prove that the officer was attempting to commit assault when he caused the death of floyd. Which would satisfy this criteria:
(1) causes the death of a human being, without intent to effect the death of any person, while committing or attempting to commit a felony offense other than criminal sexual conduct in the first or second degree with force or violence or a drive-by shooting; or
But I’m not a lawyer. Somebody fact check this
The knee on the neck proves intent to kill because the neck is an area of the body everyone knows contains vital structures, and that pressure on it can kill a person, particularly a person who’s saying they can’t breathe. The fact he could summon enough breath to utter those words means he was saying “I can’t breathe normally,” disproving the ridiculous idea he was somehow “faking” his inability to breathe.