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    Quote Originally Posted by darrowdisciple View Post
    Swing ... and a miss! What I think you are trying to say is the more you test, the more "known" cases you will have, tautology, and exactly what a sensible government would want. As to COVID, the only effective approach is to test as many as people as possible, isolate the positive results until you believe they are no longer infectious, and treat those who display symptoms. Or, you could do what has been done at the national level, which is essentially nothing, cross your fingers, and hope not to die.
    Case 1: Iím walking down the street and some asshole pulls me aside and says ďmandatory swab.Ē Iím asymptomatic, but positive, and off I go to MANDATORY QUARANTINE.

    Case 2: Iím walking down the street and I decide to voluntarily visit some asshole with a nasal swab. Iím asymptomatic, but positive, and off I go to SELF-IMPOSED QUARANTINE.

    One is far less tyrannical than the other. I see mostly Case 2 happening now, but it seems like youíre advocating for Case 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank_B View Post
    Case 1: I’m walking down the street and some asshole pulls me aside and says “mandatory swab.” I’m asymptomatic, but positive, and off I go to MANDATORY QUARANTINE.

    Case 2: I’m walking down the street and I decide to voluntarily visit some asshole with a nasal swab. I’m asymptomatic, but positive, and off I go to SELF-IMPOSED QUARANTINE.

    One is far less tyrannical than the other. I see mostly Case 2 happening now, but it seems like you’re advocating for Case 1.
    That and the provoking text are purely academic.

    Little birdie visited me again. A nurse I know got C19, recovered, and was forced/strongly-encouraged back to work early at a senior long-term care facility. Some nominal ruleset indicated a wait of at least 7 days after the fever broke before returning to work. Nurse-Boss demanded return at 3 days. Just where exquisite preventative measures were supposedly required, they were overridden. I do not expect a spike in the death count at that facility, though I will attempt follow-up.

    If we give nurse-boss benefit-of-doubt, and not assign criminal neglect, we infer abundance-of-caution is unrealistic for everyone.

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    I see concern here for the residents whose property was damaged and life endangered in Seattle by the CHOP.

    Are there lawsuits? I search for google for residents suing Seattle, and I find hundreds of stupid lawsuits. But none for The CHOP?

    Was private property damaged there? Are the property owners standing down? Why? If so, maybe we should follow the money.

    I want to see lawsuits, and then I want to watch the activist judges throw them out.

    IMPORTANT ASIDE: go to google and search for "XXX new cases"...filling in ANY 3 dig number for XXX. Repeat with any different number and watch what happens ;-) Hurry, this will be "fixed" soon. For example, 723 new cases

    See the psyop yet?

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    An aside.

    Whatís so bad about Teddy Roosevelt? I thought he was considered favorably and was the original force behind the national park system and conservation. Are we talking Bob Dole level of depravity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Charles View Post
    An aside.

    Whatís so bad about Teddy Roosevelt? I thought he was considered favorably and was the original force behind the national park system and conservation. Are we talking Bob Dole level of depravity?
    Now wondering if thereís an anti-alpha-male subcurrent to the iconoclasm. Such imagery probably irritates the weak-minded. They canít quite put their finger on it; a noose, but not finger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitsuma View Post
    I see concern here for the residents whose property was damaged and life endangered in Seattle by the CHOP.

    Are there lawsuits? I search for google for residents suing Seattle, and I find hundreds of stupid lawsuits. But none for The CHOP?

    Was private property damaged there? Are the property owners standing down? Why? If so, maybe we should follow the money.

    I want to see lawsuits, and then I want to watch the activist judges throw them out.

    IMPORTANT ASIDE: go to google and search for "XXX new cases"...filling in ANY 3 dig number for XXX. Repeat with any different number and watch what happens ;-) Hurry, this will be "fixed" soon. For example, 723 new cases

    See the psyop yet?
    Thatís odd. Not sure what Iím seeing. Seemed to get handful of hits on every random 3-digit #.

    Sorta like the Bible anti-code.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VNV View Post
    Now wondering if thereís an anti-alpha-male subcurrent to the iconoclasm. Such imagery probably irritates the weak-minded. They canít quite put their finger on it; a noose, but not finger.
    They are going after any "old-timey" white man.

    Has nothing to do with racism (not that it matters.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnst_nhb View Post
    They are going after any "old-timey" white man.
    Yeah, like Stevie Ray Vaughn.

    Quote Originally Posted by johnst_nhb View Post
    Has nothing to do with racism (not that it matters.)
    Sure it does. Or was the SRV representation defaced because he just looked a little too much like Solomon Kane to suit the demons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VNV View Post
    Thatís odd. Not sure what Iím seeing. Seemed to get handful of hits on every random 3-digit #.

    Sorta like the Bible anti-code.
    I should have been clearer...i was loading up for my "big" deadlift finale...which is about what Chase presses. Sigh

    It brings up several articles with title "xxx new coronavirus cases etc" no matter what xxx number I enter. What are the odds of that? And, I didn't ask for coronovirus, I just asked for "new cases".

    Google is pushing the Rona fear.

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    It's incredible to stop and think about how quickly this exploded and became global. It feels like it went to from Minnesota to Europe overnight.

    I was listening to Jocko Willink on Joe Rogan, and Jocko said he was talking to a LA cop about the Rodney King riots. His cop friend said that particular street violence and rioting was started by real, shot-calling, black gangsters who had local, criminal aims. By contrast, these riots have been triggered by little kids driving in from the suburbs, losers, students, the habitually unemployed. They have this religious, emotional calling to do this, and it's not something you can throw statistics and rational arguments at, like Crowder, and expect to silence. It has no basis in the rational world.

    A huge swathe of these low-information voters, plus federal, state and corporate power all seem happy to openly disagree with the following facts:
    - About 400,000 transports arrived in now what is the United States as slaves. There are now ~40 million black people in America.
    - Black people reproduced at rate of 100 to 1. This is the precise opposite of genocide.
    - Should they want to, any black person has the opportunity to a build happy, safe life in material comfort, or even luxury.
    - This definitely is in fact about race, but it's not about white supremacy or racism. It's about framing white people, and destroying Western civilization.

    These people are not going to stop disagreeing with these points EVER, and this idea of letting areas "burn out" might backfire. It's a kind of accelerationist idea, in this case you tactically stand back and let these processes take place, thereby accelerating the decline in order to prompt radical change. This only works if YOU are in control of the pace of the acceleration. WE are not in control of any aspect of this, and Trump cannot allow himself to be either.

    Any of the harsh measures required to take control of the situation, including some of those hypothetically proposed by Rip which would actually be effective at stopping an insurrection like this, would be inherently illiberal. Now race has been involved, the right can't do anything as Rip outlined, for they would instantly be compared to National Socialism and fascism which, along with slavery, is the white person's original sin and the basis of the left's entire narrative. America would rather watch its people die, and self-destruct, than go down that path.

    Trump's presidential powers are indeed hampered by the other branches of the system, but he couldn't act harshly even if he wanted to, and had the political authority to do so. He would become Hitler. It's a non-starter.

    Obviously, the only stance the state could take to stop a violent insurrection on home soil would be a fascistic one. Military on the streets using so much force that nobody would attempt anything similar for 100 years. Mass arrests. We're talking Germany in 1933. As people have sensibly ruled this out, what are the alternatives?

    People here have voiced their dismay at the idea of America becoming racially divided again, as in times past, but if we're talking about the possibility of millions of innocent Americans potentially dying as these areas are left to "burn out" and civil war erupts, wouldn't peaceful separation be more desirable?

    It seems like the options are:
    - Fourth Reich.
    - Let it all burn: The strongest shall survive, secede and MAGA.
    - Black/brown ethno-state for those who want it: Wakanda Forever.

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