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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Therefore #3: This Declaration authorizes the County to commandeer or use any private property as provided by law.

    Signed by County Judge B. Glen Whitley (R).
    This is an unnecessary and unusual overreach by the government. There is definitely a role for civil libertarians to play in defending our freedom. It has nothing to do with ventilators.

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    Right. There's nothing in the Tarrant County document about ventilators. So here's another statto question: How many ordinances like this around the nation and the world include this type of clause?

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    Grandma, 95, is oldest woman to recover from coronavirus in Italy

    Just a reminder that otherwise healthy old people survive this shit more than they die from it. But by all means, carry on with the prelude to WWIII...

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    Anyone else notice that no one in the US is being listed as recovered. Even Italy shows more recovered then dead. I did find a few local news sources, but the big maps show once you go in, you don't come out.

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    Stattos: The graphs from 3 weeks ago predicted how many deaths by 3/25? How many are there as of today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerald Boggs View Post
    Anyone else notice that no one in the US is being listed as recovered. Even Italy shows more recovered then dead. I did find a few local news sources, but the big maps show once you go in, you don't come out.
    It takes a while to recover. More than to die. Just be patient and you will be in the same situation as Italy in less then 2 weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    TAnd in 2009-2010 the H1N1 flu infected 60 million and killed 18000. Do the math. You're right, it hasn't even started yet, and it might get bad, but we have thrown it the bone of a destroyed economy.
    The economy was gonna die anyway. This is a time of precedents. In the West, alone, you had a simultaneous equity bubble, a credit crunch, unfunded liabilities 7 or 8 times the magnitude of national GDPs, coupled with a decline in industrial production and a trade war that the confidence man you guys elected president decided to lose. That was even before there was any news from the Chinese wet markets. Add to that a complete halt of production in three of the world's top production regions and a universal drop in demand in the past three months, and what you have is Western economies having to be bailed out by China in the best case scenario, or sweeping national defaults, followed by civil wars, maybe even a world war in the worst. I won't even go into the possible collapse of the petrodollar system.

    There is a sliver of chance that the complete stop in demand for Chinese goods will push their GDP close to negative growth, which might scare their leadership enough to enter into some kind of global restructuring of debt and the monetary system, so that the whole thing doesn't turn into a nuclear fuckfest. Paradoxically, the entire world is lucky you don't have a Democrat for President, because otherwise the entire American answer to the oncoming crisis would be to give ALL THE REMAINING MONEY to their Wall Street friends, so there is still a fool's hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Spacediver: here's a statto question for you: what percentage of people are placed on ventilators for COVID19, and how many of them die anyway?
    My question phrased a little differently but similar is:

    What percentage of people with coronavirus who ultimately need a ventilator survive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lazygun37 View Post
    That only answers the first part of his question, and only if you assume that every person that goes to the ICU is placed on a ventilator. I have no idea if that is a good assumption or not. The paper makes no mention of ventilators.

    Of the reported COVID-19 cases, 4.9% were admitted to the ICU, and 1.8% died. It doesn't break out what percentage of the ICU patients vs. the hospitalized patients died.

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