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    The media is irresponsible, but the paper isn’t bad. On average, patients have persistently (for months, maybe longer) elevated biomarkers of cardiac inflammation. This suggests a mechanism for (occasional) lingering malaise.

    One issue (besides the usual sniffs about clinical significance of biomarkers) is: the interaction between preexisting conditions and inflammation is not examined. Significant long-term effects may be felt only by vulnerable patients. This would jive with the CDC phone survey which also earned scary headlines.

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    Since you read the paper, what were the biomarkers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Charles View Post
    In any case, his hypocritical outing at the baseball game, not wearing a mask while sitting shoulder to shoulder with others, and his lame excuse, has permanently destroyed his credibility.
    Barry, what was his excuse? I never saw that. Thanks.

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    Results are just in for Croatia: we’ve had 1000 fewer deaths in the first half of 2020 as compared to 2019. Some lame ass pandemic

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommanderFun View Post
    Were all those nukes they had fake?
    Or their tanks, or their very large number of ground troops, or their bombers, or their ICBMs, or their submarines, or the previously referenced surface warships? Nope. Those were real all right. Maybe not as good as ours and perhaps not crewed by personnel as good. But they were real and all it took was one slip up on our part and there would have been a lot of real dead people in the Good Old U S of A.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Since you read the paper, what were the biomarkers?
    Troponin levels, ejection fraction, and presence of myocardial scarring on MRI. They also found inflammation on myocardial biopsy of a few subjects who had the most severe findings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiva Kaul View Post
    the interaction between preexisting conditions and inflammation is not examined. Significant long-term effects may be felt only by vulnerable patients.
    This doesn't surprise me at all, in fact I think it's natural.

    Sometimes it's what they don't say. While not explicitly stated, it appears the study was of seriously sick people, some of whom were on respirators, and all of which (I assume) were hospitalized. Comorbidity and age related hospitalization data indicates that pre-existing health conditions such as diabetes, metabolic syndrome, hypertension have strong correlations to covid-19 related hospitalization. My point being: If you take someone who has compromised cardiopulmonary health, subject them to covid-19, they endure a very difficult fight for their life in the hospital (maybe even getting the dreaded ventilators that anecdotal evidence claims may cause damage) it doesn't surprise me they have lasting health effects. They likely had poor health before.

    We know that if we do silly things in the weight room, crash motorcycles, fall down steps, etc etc the body will bounce back but it's never 100% the same. There's this study of marathon runners with heard damage.... everyone stopping running now? Amateur Marathoners Run the Risk of Heart Damage | Live Science

    Lets see a study of people who didn't need hospitalization, or maybe had a non-icu recovery, and see if they are worse off?

    Life is pain and suffering until we die, the only way to live a full life is to embrace that concept and move forward.

    This study is good information to consider, but in the end it is really just media fodder for more scare tactics (as to why we should stay home). I have teacher friends specifically using this study as to why they shouldn't go back to work... when this study (even if they had covid-19) likely wouldn't apply to their non-hospitalization experience assuming they had it and recovered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommanderFun View Post
    Were all those nukes they had fake?
    The nukes were about the only thing dangerous compared against US/Western capabilities on a meaningful scale with regard to full-on conventional warfare. Which is to say they could still cause casualties, but ultimately would run into the same issue as Shermans vs Panzers -- except they couldn't and can't produce enough to win the way Shermans did. Even now, with their impressive designs for fighters, SAMs, hypersonic missiles, etc., their ability to field significant numbers of these threats and project that force is drastically reduced. They're also far, far more worried about China than they are anyone else. Wouldn't surprise me if they wind up fighting on the Allies side (again) if a WW3 breaks out, or just sitting it out, entirely.


    Quote Originally Posted by Shiva Kaul View Post
    The media is irresponsible, but the paper isn’t bad. On average, patients have persistently (for months, maybe longer) elevated biomarkers of cardiac inflammation. This suggests a mechanism for (occasional) lingering malaise.

    One issue (besides the usual sniffs about clinical significance of biomarkers) is: the interaction between preexisting conditions and inflammation is not examined. Significant long-term effects may be felt only by vulnerable patients. This would jive with the CDC phone survey which also earned scary headlines.
    Did you happen to evaluate the other risks for long-term pulmonary/cardiac issues or other respiratory viruses and/or follow-on bacterial pneumonia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Jackson View Post
    Bernie has always confused me and I don't know if I would label him an old school leftist... He tried to go down the populist route by picking and choosing some social democracy parts of the Nordic model, like expanding welfare state, but was anti-free trade and wanted to raise corporate income tax which definitely doesn't sit within the definition of the Nordic model.

    He had no intention of wealth redistribution proper and overthrowing the means of production - so you can't accurately call him a socialist. I mean, a socialist wouldn't call him a socialist. To a libertarian type, he may be labelled as a socialist, as they define "socialism" differently. In my former libertarian phase, I viewed him as a hard-core socialist - but isn't he just neo-liberalism with the outer appearance of social-democracy to get the populist vote?

    He seems like an old school leftist who drifted right all the way over to neo-liberalism. I guess after Clinton turned the Dems into a neo-liberal party he had no choice but to follow this route, as with our Labour Party in the New Labour Tony Blair era.

    From the perspective of a national socialist, he's still very confusing, but pretty much a neo-liberal I guess.
    The "nordic model" is utterly unfettered capitalism with a welfare state attached. That its adherents refer to it as "socialism" is a sort of tongue-in-cheek type of deal. Still, this system would be preferable to what we have now. I'm not sure what you mean when you say Bernie had no intention of wealth distribution. He supported the Warren wealth tax, which is the more straightforward type of wealth distribution there is, and M4A and free college are also distributionist policies. That said, yeah, he's sort of in the bubble between the right wing of "socialism" and neoliberalism. You could debate it either way.

    BTW, Matt, if you're evaluating things from the "national socialist" perspective... you might want to consider keeping that to yourself in public lol

    Anyways:

    White culture is under attack. Protestors destroy its iconography from coast to coast. Tech billionaires, in possession of outsize influence over the shape and direction of society thanks to the free market crowd’s steadfast refusal to check their power through robust regulation and government oversight over their business practices, censor conservative/anti-anti-white views without any fear of reprisal.

    Consider the following graphs: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EeDWITLX...png&name=large

    These are mentions of various woke liberal buzzwords on twitter. Notice how in almost literally every case, the pedal really hits the metal around ’14-‘15 (The beginning of the period that has been termed “The Great Awokening”). Now look at this graph, charting the expansion of Amazon’s size and influence: • Chart: Amazon's Impressive Long-Term Growth | Statista

    What a weird coincidence, right? Once could almost be excused for wondering whether or not there may be some kind of connection between these two phenomena. Come to think of it… didn’t Jeff Bezos also buy the Washington Post a couple of months before this onslaught of what you lot adorably call “cultural Marxism” commenced? Geez….

    Here’s Facebook: • Facebook: revenue and net income | Statista

    And Google: • Google: annual revenue | Statista

    But, wait…. No. No. There’s nothing to worry about here. Our history, culture, and civil liberties are all safe. You see, in my 8th grade civics class, the teacher told me that it was impossible for private corporations to infringe on our freedoms, because if we don’t like their products we can simply not interact with them! This freedom blade cuts the other way too: In the same way that Mark Rippetoe can command whomever he likes to leave his gym, Mark Zuckerberg can command whomever he likes to leave his social media platform. That’s why censorship is so totally fine when corporations do it, and a group of sniveling, odious neoliberal tech moguls can’t have effectively become the new arbiters of morality and acceptable political discourse in our society nearly overnight!

    Except they have.

    And if some black kid spray painting a dick on Robert E. Lee has got you angry, then you better strap in, kid, because what’s coming next is going to be really, really unpleasant for you. The tech companies aren’t even close to done accumulating wealth and influence. If past and present behavior is any indication, they want to break down whatever communal spirit remains in the hearts of the white working class, criminalize the act of taking pride in white ancestry, and create the “utopia” foretold in the 1976 Sidney Lumet classic Network: “There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no Third Worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars. Petrodollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, Reichsmarks, rins, rubles, pounds, and shekels. It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today.”

    No community, no identity, no culture, no meaning, just the soulless, abjected accumulation of wealth… until the universe collapses in on itself.

    We’re running out of time to stop them. If white culture is to save itself, it’s going to have to draw upon all of its strength. It’s going to have to pull out all the stops. It’s going to have to see fit to reject the puritanical free market fundamentalism that has poisoned and stultified it for so long. It’s going to have to finally use the finest weapon it has, fashioned by its greatest champion, who was without a doubt the greatest European who ever lived.

    White culture can only save itself by embracing the insights of Karl Marx.

    I’m unsure if anyone reading this will be familiar with the debate between Cenk Uygur and Tucker Carlson, but allow me to reproduce one of the most notable exchanges therefrom:

    Uyger, representing the ideological faction that apparently considers itself the “left” in this country, asseverates that we should embrace open borders and large-scale immigration, because we need cheap labor for our chicken plants.

    Carlson, representing the ideological faction that apparently considers itself the “right” in this country, rejoins that maybe we should all feel a sense of solidarity and comradeship with the native workers who staff the chicken plant, and accept that we must pay a somewhat higher price for chicken so that they can afford to buy Christmas presents for their children.

    Our society should be an actual community whose members feel an actual kinship with one another and an actual sense of belonging. It should not be allowed to further devolve into a fractured group of frightened people with nothing in common apart from the experience of being governed by heartless market forces that rampage unchecked by what were once our shared western values, and are now merely history.

    Western culture is about protecting the sick and weak among us, even when it isn’t easy. Western culture is about freedom, scientific curiosity, and open debate. Western culture is about the celebration of parenthood, and civic engagement. Western culture is about feeling a sense of responsibility to your community, your family, and your people. Western culture cured smallpox. Western culture beat Hitler and the Japanese fascists. Western culture is a good and blessed thing. Western culture is something to be proud of. Western culture matters, and that’s why we have to fight to preserve it—and the only way to do that is by breaking up the tech oligarchy and reversing the trend of runaway wealth inequality that the capitalist class has effected in the post-soviet era.

    The Trumps, Cruzs, Pelosis, Schumers, Rubios and Bidens of the world have aided and abetted the campaign of sabotage and balkanization of America’s founding identity group that is been carried out by tech CEO’s who control absurd proportions of the world economy.

    Isn’t it about time someone like you had something to say about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommanderFun View Post
    Were all those nukes they had fake?
    No, and that was not what I said,

    Quote Originally Posted by Satch12879 View Post
    The Soviets couldn't feed themselves. They were an economic basket case. Just because they had a lot of impressive military hardware meant that the party decided that's what they were going to spend the money on. The Soviets were only kept afloat by the success of the West during those horrible decades, both in terms of information and direct aid.
    Is a man with a very large house, a pool, and a couple of exotic automobiles necessarily successful, or does he just have a lot of maxed out credit cards? In the case of the USSR, we know now, and some people during the Cold War suspected, it was the later.

    Think about it this way: does a sore go away if you keep scratching it?

    What good is an empire of nuclear glass?

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