Where are you getting these numbers?
And the answer is a resounding no.
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An emergency medicine physician projects that if schools open up in the fall, they'''ll be closed by the end of October due to COVID-19 outbreaks
From the article:
Citing the "confluence" of the flu season and increased exposure, one doctor with experience in advising city officials on public health said schools can either taking strict health safety precautions or expect to shut the school down again by the end of October if they reopen.
This clearly makes him an expert and therefore the entire premise of the article is obviously true.
I’m well aware that what I write isn’t what many people on the board want to hear, so I try to stick to facts and topics where I have solid footing.
When I look at the big picture, here is what I think: as long as this virus is hanging around, easing up restrictions will lead to more deaths in the short term. I think what you’re seeing is simply that many people (most politicians, but maybe also the majority of the populace) don’t have the stomach for it, in the way that you do. I, too, am a rip-the-bandaid-off type, and dragging things out seems more painful.
But if you want to make the case for facing the reality of some excess deaths due to this virus, you have to also face the reality of what this virus is. It’s different from the flu in several important ways.
Of course politicians have made hay of the crisis for political and personal gain. And the media have been fearmongering to keep their ratings and relevance up. This is what they do, what we have allowed them to become. Of course most people don’t even know what a virus is yet have deep opinions about how this particular virus behaves and how it should be addressed.
If you want to preach to the choir, you can say almost anything. But if you want to change someone’s mind, it’s best to have the supportable facts on your side. If you wanted to discuss mask mandates with someone trying to impose one, and start with “it’s just the flu,” you will see their eyes glaze over, the same as yours would if they started with “it’s the End Times Plague.”
All I want to do is keep the facts in the middle, in plain view. Not that I have the True Facts that others don’t, but I can see when the medical literature or hospital procedures are misunderstood, whether it’s here or on TV. And typing here is more rewarding than yelling at my TV, so that’s what I do.
Thanks for the forum.
They aren't going to give up. They aren't going to allow the Bezos' and Bloombergs to snap up their market share anymore than a spindly 5th grader allows the high school bully to take his milk money at the bus stop.
The NY response to the pandemic is perfectly in line withe the rest of Cuomo's record: at all times, support the policy that enriches the "centrist" donor class (and, to a lesser extent, the professional-managerial labor aristocracy) to the most dramatic extent possible.
In Cuomo's eyes, the small business owners deserve what they get. Why didn't they have enough money squirreled away to survive a 6 month ban on the operation of their business? Because it isn't fair or reasonable to ask them to have done that? Capitalism doesn't care about "fair", capitalism doesn't care about your feelings or your culture or your sanity. It never will.
Yes, it is true that people would be frightened of the virus even if the government was not using it as an opportunity to wage class war. April 2020 was going to be a really, really bad time to own a nail salon in Manhattan, regardless of the government response. But surely you are not defending the lockdowns that have enriched the titans of industry at the expense of the rest of the nation?
Two fairly obvious things here:
1-Covid is highly contagious and also sucks at killing healthy people. So odds of having it are decent. odds of having a deadly dose/batch/whatever are low. So odds are you died of whatever else was there. Sure the Covid could have triggered something, but this is by no means a justified go-to assumption.
2-How deadly Covid is, and thus the steps worth taking to avoid it, must be justified by comparison to other communicable things. How does it compare to flu, TB, ect? In order to do this you have to count deaths the same way we do for these other things. But we are not. Because of this Covid-19 looks more deadly that these other things and the BS counting justifies different risk aversion methods for them.
The death numbers are all inflated BS. Sure people are dying of it uncounted, but that is even more true for these other things too.
nah. you should watch.
those two guys destroy cuomo, and draw a lot of attention to how the various powers fucked up the adult care facilities (i.e. his governor brother killing those people in NY)
cuomo should have never let those two on; they thought they were going to get two knuckleheads.
This is not about "the stomach." What happened during the 2017 flu season that required the stomach for just getting on with our lives?
What are the numbers for excess deaths due to COVID-19 so far, and how will this compare with 2017? Yes, it's different from the flu, but it's also quite similar to the flu in that it preferentially kills certain groups of people and just makes everybody else a little sick for a while.Quote:
But if you want to make the case for facing the reality of some excess deaths due to this virus, you have to also face the reality of what this virus is. It’s different from the flu in several important ways.
From:An emergency medicine physician projects that if schools open in the fall, they'''ll close by the end of October with COVID-19 outbreaks
I believe that the data shows that flu kills more kids, but it's only this year that we can't go to school. I think you have bought into their premise, and I don't think the data justify it.Quote:
Lambert said it could be difficult identifying and separating coronavirus cases and flu cases because of the similarity between symptoms and increased exposure to others.
You and I both know that a Handwashing Mandate would be far more effective in stopping the spread of all these diseases -- assuming that we should actually be interested in doing so, and a lot of people besides me think this is a stupid idea. But a Handwashing Mandate cannot be visually verified, so the default is nice, visible masks that don't do a goddamn thing except signal obedience and virtue. Hell, you can't get the floor staff in a hospital to wash their hands often enough. If you wanted a government intervention that might have a chance of actually doing something, local health departments would require handwashing stations at the entrance of all public buildings, and plumbers would then become the recipients of government favor. But Amazon and Walmart can't get their piece of this, so it won't be done.Quote:
If you wanted to discuss mask mandates with someone trying to impose one, and start with “it’s just the flu,” you will see their eyes glaze over, the same as yours would if they started with “it’s the End Times Plague.”
This is the level of discourse among the Left.
The more literate the troll, the higher the threshold for deletion? Is this your assumption?