COVID19 Factors We Should Consider/Current Events

[Haghstull]

Meanwhile, Russia declares victory: Russia'''s approval of virus vaccine greeted with some alarm

Great quotes in there from public health "experts" who denounce the impetuousness bound up with distributing a vaccine to tens of thousands of people before it has been properly tested in phase III trials. You know, the phase of trials that involve tens of thousands of people.

[Mark Rippetoe]

There are a few things I want the government to do. Here are four:

1. Effect a free-at-the-point-of-use healthcare system in the mold of those that are beloved by the populations of Europe. This could easily be funded in any number of ways, but a wealth tax is my favorite. Don't worry, Rip, you'll still get to look down at folks who aren't as mercantile as you. They'll just have basic dignities while you do it, in keeping with the western values of compassion and duty to community. A UBI is essential as well, as was recognized by Friedman and Hayek.

2. Put an immediate moratorium on immigration for the sake of preventing the kind of demographic shift that has already erected a scaffold for the strong, cohesive white culture from which we have all benefited so very much. This is not not just poor mexicans--ALL immigration, including indians and chinamen that are responsible for the profound demographic shift in places like silicon valley. If you are based in America, your programmers, engineers and coterie of top managers are American, Zuckerberg. Period. No deals. We may need to adjust demographics more directly in the future, but for now the best we can do is stay the execution.

3. Actually enforce existing labor laws, which would make it illegal for employees to refuse to hire architects because they didn't pass sociology. Basically, college as an institution needs to be effectively destroyed. The villanous, exploitative business community are the only ones that benefit from the status quo. Milton: "The most obvious social cost," Friedman wrote in Capitalism and Freedom about occupational registration, certification, and licensure, "is that any one of these measures...almost inevitably becomes a tool in the hands of a special producer group to obtain a monopoly position at the expense of the rest of the public."

4. Prosecute Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rove for the war crimes they carried out in North Africa, which resulted in the deaths of thousands of U.S. soldiers and millions of Iraqi's. Never, ever, EVER fight a war on behalf of an oil company again.

Now that I've beaten it out of you, I only really disagree with #1. "Free Health Care" is not free and it must be rationed, as must everything else that is "Free." You can't get your knee replaced on your own schedule if it's being "given" to you. But socialists such as yourself want free shit so badly that you are willing to tell your mother she has to wait on a hip "for the greater good of the People." And a Universal Basic Income is the same as giving everybody 10 points at the start of the racquetball game. Neither Friedman nor Hayek would endorse this shit for the reasons you want them.

#2 is fine, a good idea. #3 is fine, because colleges and universities are breeding grounds for socialist vermin such as yourself, and because they currently lack the ability to perform their function as educational institutions due to the aforementioned socialist vermin such as yourself. I have written and been interviewed about state licensure many times, and it actually disappoints me that a socialist parasite such as yourself agrees with me on these two points.

#4 is interesting. Can we add the entire Obama Administration to this list? Surely even you agree that what was done to Libya merits at least somebody spending the night in jail? And let's add the Bush II administration, if for no other reason than for being stupid enough to think that the TSA was the solution to a problem of any kind.

[Joe Cavazos]

Meanwhile, Russia declares victory: Russia'''s approval of virus vaccine greeted with some alarm

We're about to enter a tedious and frustrating phase of this insanity: the same people who have for months told us life cannot return to normal until there's a vaccine will now tell us no vaccine that is produced is safe or effective enough.

"We don't know the long-term side effects"
"I heard about a healthy 30-year-old in Lansing who died after getting vaccinated"
"The vaccine is only 70% effective anyway, the virus can still infect you, kill you, and kill others"

Etc.

[Mark Rippetoe]

But it will be required anyway, because the virus is so deadly. Hide and wait...

[Shiva Kaul]

You aren't particularly impressed, but you're still, like, a little bit impressed at least, right???

I feel unlucky, because one of my posts appeared next to one of yours.

[Mark Rippetoe]

Good!

Trump Taps Esteemed Anti-Fauci Stanford Doc for COVID Team– Huge Game Changer

From the piece:

He explained five facts about COVID-19 that were already apparent from the data a month after lockdowns started. But most Americans were totally unaware and, thanks to our corrupt and incompetent national press, still are.

Fact 1: The overwhelming majority of people do not have any significant risk of dying from COVID-19.
Fact 2: Protecting older, at-risk people eliminates hospital overcrowding.
Fact 3: Vital herd immunity is prevented by total isolation policies, prolonging the problem.
Fact 4: People are dying because other medical care is not getting done due to hypothetical projections.
Fact 5: We have a clearly defined population at risk who can be protected with targeted measures.

Countless lives would’ve been saved and a heartbreaking amount of needless hardship and misery averted if more people had been aware of Dr. Atlas’s article back in April when it first appeared.

I really hope this accomplishes something. I have my doubts, because it's just too little, too late.

I feel unlucky, because one of my posts appeared next to one of yours.

And I wish I could fix that for you, but this vbullitin program was obviously written by a socialist parasite.

[Joe Cavazos]

But it will be required anyway, because the virus is so deadly. Hide and wait...

I'm not sure about that. The anti-vax movement seems strongest on the political left, so leftists who demand mandatory vaccinations would be going against their own tribe.

But it's interesting to think about. I'll ask: why do you think our pro-lockdown population would support mandatory vaccination? What does it benefit them? I guess you could say they desire control or subjugation or something like that, but a mandatory vaccination would essentially put a stop this immediate hysteria. Wouldn't it be better to sabotage any vaccine so they can force us to continue living under their control like this? Where it's illegal to visit family, hold (unapproved) funerals, go mask-less, or travel freely?

[Jovan Dragisic]

We're about to enter a tedious and frustrating phase of this insanity: the same people who have for months told us life cannot return to normal until there's a vaccine will now tell us no vaccine that is produced is safe or effective enough.

"We don't know the long-term side effects"
"I heard about a healthy 30-year-old in Lansing who died after getting vaccinated"
"The vaccine is only 70% effective anyway, the virus can still infect you, kill you, and kill others"

Etc.

It’s like that no true Scotsman logical fallacy.

[Satch12879]

Stanford has been very interesting in this whole mess, with some of the more resistant voices in the scientific community speaking very critically and consistently so since March. Ioannidis at the medical school being the most prominent, previously hailed as bringing much needed sanity and rigor to the research world, now they question where he gets his funding. It's a political move and Atlas, unfortunately, has the wrong credentials.

Jason Stapleton had an interesting take yesterday reading the tea leaves from America's newspaper of record:

Don't Doubt Me: NYT Now Says Pandemic Over By October - YouTube

[Mark Rippetoe]

Stanford has been very interesting in this whole mess, with some of the more resistant voices in the scientific community speaking very critically and consistently so since March. Ioannidis at the medical school being the most prominent, previously hailed as bringing much needed sanity and rigor to the research world, now they question where he gets his funding. It's a political move and Atlas, unfortunately, has the wrong credentials.

Jason Stapleton had an interesting take yesterday reading the tea leaves from America's newspaper of record:

Don't Doubt Me: NYT Now Says Pandemic Over By October - YouTube

This thing is an hour long. Is there a timestamp you want us to see?

I'm not sure about that. The anti-vax movement seems strongest on the political left, so leftists who demand mandatory vaccinations would be going against their own tribe.

But it's interesting to think about. I'll ask: why do you think our pro-lockdown population would support mandatory vaccination? What does it benefit them? I guess you could say they desire control or subjugation or something like that, but a mandatory vaccination would essentially put a stop this immediate hysteria. Wouldn't it be better to sabotage any vaccine so they can force us to continue living under their control like this? Where it's illegal to visit family, hold (unapproved) funerals, go mask-less, or travel freely?

The political Left are not running the show. For most people, Fauci is running the show. He's The Trusted Voice Of Reason And Science. Most people have been convinced by the propaganda -- this forum is no more representative of the general population that Twitter is -- and if a vaccine will let them get back to some semblance of normal, they will accept the need for me to be forced to take it.