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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    He really made a bad impression on you, Shiva. He could have written this too, with help from the socialist vermin above: Dear Men: Stop Working Out. | Sis, This!

    Look at this goddamn thing, and try to find a single true fact.




    This is the way it's done, people. If enough shit like this is written, one day you wake up and it's August 2020.
    I think that's either intentional parody, or bait. In either case it certainly doesn't represent real intersectional feminist thinking, because it make numerous claims that are biologically essentialist. No real woke progressive would point out the link between testosterone and male aggression, or even make the claim that 'x population are on average more y than z population' irrespective of the content, because that would be to suggest that not every difference between populations is entirely socially determined. You have to be a tabula rasa, nurture absolutist to sign on to the full menu of woke dementedness. This reminds me of the Lindsay, Pluckrose, Boghossian scholarly hoax articles.

    Treating that article seriously as an argument from the woke left is analogous to treating Mark Meechan's pug as a spokesman for conservatism, and makes the person doing it look just as clever.

    P.S

    I wrote the above after reading the posted extract, but decided to check out the link before hitting post. I honestly can't tell if the entire site, which is 3 weeks old and hosts 4 articles, all of this very edge case 'is it fuckery or serious?' type, is an earnest attempt at journo-blogging by some idiot gender studies grads, or just broad satire. My guess would be it's some kind of 4chan-style deep troll, because all of the comments on the article are along the theme of the top voted comment by 'Digger Nick' which reads 'shut up, whore'.

    Who the butt of the joke is meant to be, exactly, is lost on me at this point. It certainly makes that ultra woke brand of progressivism look dumb and dangerous, but it also succeeds in making anybody who takes it seriously for even a second look like a fucking moron.

    I think anybody that reads or disseminates that article in any context has immediately volunteered to be part of the problem, though, which now includes me. Thanks Rip, is my head out of my ass yet?

    COVID is still a real crisis, by the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark E. Hurling View Post
    Floyd was indeed all of that. Even so, when he used passive resistance when put in the patrol vehicle, proning him out and kneeling on his neck was the wrong response. Just haul his big ass up and shove him in the back seat with whatever additional restraints might have been needed on him. Including fastening his cuffs to something solid and bolted to the frame of the vehicle. Then drive off to the nearest lock up with him.

    Done. Non-lethal. Out of sight of all the video cams and phones, which only made what WAS done look worse.
    Isn't this exactly how that situation in Bal'mer (the perp was named Freddie?) went down a few years back? When their last round of peaceful riots went down?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haghstull View Post
    Your post leaves out an important bit of information though, which is that the experience humanity actually has with privatized healthcare strongly suggests that it is ass.
    Sort of, since we don't really have any record of fully privatized healthcare, it's always semi-private, with cartels forming all over the board.

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    While bored, alone, and a year older this week... I got to picking at the wallpaper over this:
    https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021...restox.9b00243

    And it led me to this:
    WHAT DOES RESPIRATOR CERTIFICATION TELL US ABOUT FILTRATION OF ULTRAFINE PARTICLES?

    Absolutely fascinating. It will be interesting to see if a more modern method for rating filtration has arisen after these findings from 2008 (published 2019).

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    Yes. These waitlists are so oppressive that Britons everywhere, of every race, creed and color, are joining together in a mass populist movement focused on completely changing the way healthcare is done in their country.
    Maybe not, maybe they should, interestingly I don't see a lot of Americans leaving our horrible system (best in the world) to have procedures done. In fact people from all over the world come to the US to receive the best care in the world. So, yeah, once again you've proven how your ignorance is not mitigated by your advanced degrees in grievance studies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haghstull View Post
    Yes—great point. It oughtn’t even bear mentioning, Dylan, that no one has ever had a bad experience with a U.S. doctor or a private health insurance bureaucracy. Your one little anecdote really puts proponents of socialized medicine in their place. Doubly so given that so many people agree with you, which is why there is a huge chunk of the electorate that wants to dispense with the NHS in favor of the veritable garden of delights that privatized healthcare has been in the U.S.. As you can see, Brions despise their healthcare system so much that they are barely even more proud of it than their queen! Your views are clearly representative of most people’s. (The NHS: even more cherished than the monarchy and the army)
    First of all, learn to read for comprehension. I didn't talk about having a bad experience with a doctor or a bureaucracy, I talked about systemic issues with the NHS. Next, learn to count. I didn't give you one anecdote, I gave you four which show a pattern between them. Finally, learn to read the underlying report that is being cited, rather than just skimming the article that's making use of it. 45% of the people surveyed said that the NHS was one of the 2 or 3 things they were most proud of in Britain. That means that 55% didn't. Even the very NHS positive article you linked was arguing against a perception that the NHS has massive problems.

    The other thing that anyone looking at the NHS who didn't live long term in the UK needs to understand is the context in which people think about it. It's something that people have a lot of pride in, but that doesn't mean they think it's great, it means that they feel ashamed of its failings and wish it was doing better. The majority of people have never experienced private health care like in the US, so they don't have a good frame of reference. Instead they think of either private UK healthcare - where you're paying a second time for something your taxes already paid for - or privatized public services, which are generally hated.

    The reason that privatized public services are hated is because they're essentially socialism being used for private profit. A government department makes the decision to contract a particular company to provide all of a particular service for a time period of several years, with no competition from other companies other than at the initial bid and renewal times. Many of these companies specialize in putting together bids and contract terms that let them provide an inferior service without technically breaking the contract. It's like somebody taking your grocery money off you each week and giving it to Walmart because Walmart promised to feed you a healthy diet.

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    This very acclaimed professor also uses your DRC as a statistic Rip.
    https://youtu.be/ZqUIiZggom0

    Here is a more condensed version of his stance. Even though he refers to Israel, his views certainly apply to the rest of the world as well.
    Exclusive: Professor Yoram Lass to Arutz Sheva: 'Pandemic psychosis' - Inside Israel - Israel National News

    "Former Health Ministry Director Professor Yoram Lass, who has been outspoken and unembarrassed in his criticism of Health Ministry COVID-19 policy.

    Professor Lass does not suggest that minor errors have been made in determining Israeli mitigation policy, rather he says the Health Ministry is disseminating completely erroneous data; there is no "excess mortality" in Israel, no plague, and, as a rule, the so-called "dead because of coronavirus" did not die from coronavirus."

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    Quote Originally Posted by JordanNewell View Post
    This is known as Facism. It was tried out in the mid 20th century and a number of significant downsides became apparent. Quite a lot of Americans died so the affected countries could get back to being representative democracies, following which things improved a lot. It really blows my mind that anyone would think it's worth another go round that particular carousel.
    So how many thousands of years of monarchy before it got labelled "Fascism"?

    I'm not arguing for monarchy per se, but your take on it is utterly ignorant of history.

    And let's not forget the lovely false flags and such that happened so that the "noble" "representative democracies" could justify their freedom projects and allegiances to possibly the worst government ever in the form of Stalin's Russia. Not to mention spreading the same BS, albeit with fewer citizens being murdered, in the US through FDR's New Deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Jackson View Post
    Just got done with the 1 hour of raw footage from the arrest of George Floyd. Did anyone else watch it, and see anything other than a POS felon overdose on meth and fentanyl under a cop's knee?

    Something tells me little Cannon Hinnant isn't going to be given gold casket, and there won't be any protests in his name either.
    And from the second officer's camera it seems pretty clear that the weight of the officer was between Floyd's shoulder blades, not on his neck.

    Not that that should matter. A MPD approved technique used over 200 time without noteworthy incident and the fact that the autopsy and perpetual screaming until busting a valve demonstrate that he wasn't choked to death.

    Not that that will change anyone's minds...because optics are all anyone cares about anymore....hence the masks.

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    Go make me a sandwich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Norman View Post
    I think that's either intentional parody, or bait. In either case it certainly doesn't represent real intersectional feminist thinking, because it make numerous claims that are biologically essentialist. No real woke progressive would point out the link between testosterone and male aggression, or even make the claim that 'x population are on average more y than z population' irrespective of the content, because that would be to suggest that not every difference between populations is entirely socially determined. You have to be a tabula rasa, nurture absolutist to sign on to the full menu of woke dementedness. This reminds me of the Lindsay, Pluckrose, Boghossian scholarly hoax articles.

    Treating that article seriously as an argument from the woke left is analogous to treating Mark Meechan's pug as a spokesman for conservatism, and makes the person doing it look just as clever.

    P.S

    I wrote the above after reading the posted extract, but decided to check out the link before hitting post. I honestly can't tell if the entire site, which is 3 weeks old and hosts 4 articles, all of this very edge case 'is it fuckery or serious?' type, is an earnest attempt at journo-blogging by some idiot gender studies grads, or just broad satire. My guess would be it's some kind of 4chan-style deep troll, because all of the comments on the article are along the theme of the top voted comment by 'Digger Nick' which reads 'shut up, whore'.

    Who the butt of the joke is meant to be, exactly, is lost on me at this point. It certainly makes that ultra woke brand of progressivism look dumb and dangerous, but it also succeeds in making anybody who takes it seriously for even a second look like a fucking moron.

    I think anybody that reads or disseminates that article in any context has immediately volunteered to be part of the problem, though, which now includes me. Thanks Rip, is my head out of my ass yet?
    if you don't think the left is capable of generating someone who sincerely believes this shit, your head is still in your ass.

    COVID is still a real crisis, by the way.
    As almost 6000 posts on this thread have discussed, the RESPONSE to COVID-19 is the crisis. The disease itself is over:

    COVID-19 Provisional Counts - Weekly Updates by Select Demographic and Geographic Characteristics

    More people have died of the FLU than coronavirus for seven weeks in a row

    But you are encouraged to continue pretending, so that your government likes you.

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