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    Quote Originally Posted by CommanderFun View Post
    It's not even the well being of your fellow man. An economy is all interconnected. Shut down "unessential" businesses, and those people aren't able to patronize "essential" businesses like they used to. By taking people out of the economy by force, you are eliminating the overall value they create and add to the whole. That's why planned economies fail every time stacked against ones that are just allowed to grow.
    These are really two separate arguments. Mine was more of a moral case that you can’t claim it is my duty to sacrifice myself for others. Yours is more an economic argument, though obviously you could invoke morality in that as well. My argument is along the lines that it is wrong to force me to close my business for the “greater good” as a “civic duty” (because I have seen people state this multiple times. Not here though) because that is an extreme detriment to the well being of myself and my family.

    Your argument is more along the lines that forcing me to close my business is not in the interest of the greater good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yngvi View Post
    -The up to 50% of small business owners who had their assets seized
    -The 15%+ now constantly living in fear of eviction or losing their house
    -The small business employees who had to leave their relatively comfortable $20/hr job to take an extremely uncomfortable $10/hr job at Amazon.
    -The unemployed or underemployed tech workers who have been displaced by H1-B visas
    -The hundreds of thousands suffocating under student loan debt they will never be able to pay off
    -The hundreds of millions of people censored, threatened, intimidated and persecuted for wrong-think
    -The millions of veterans who fought for their country, only to see it being maliciously disassembled and destroyed.
    -The Millennials and Zoomers who know it is extremely unlikely they will ever achieve anything remotely close the the living standards enjoyed by the Boomers and GenXers.
    -The Boomers and GenXers who may never have grandchildren, but are paying high taxes to support massive immigration
    -The millions fleeing from the ruins of once-prosperous cities
    -The hundreds of thousands victimized by criminals the Soros DAs are unwilling to prosecute
    -The millions who have seen a gradual deterioration of their living standards over the past 50 years and a rapid deterioration over the past year.
    -The millions who have seen their towns thrown into poverty and heroin addiction as their jobs were outsourced to China and drug cartels from south of the border were given illegal immunity
    -The hundreds of thousands of immigrants who fled Hong Kong, South Africa, Venezuela, Vietnam and the Soviet Republic.
    -The millions who now live in a foreign city in their own home countries after 50 years of multiculturalism and "massive demographic change"
    -The hundreds of thousands fired from quasi-monopolistic corporations that are posting record profits
    -Religious groups who are not allowed to congregate or worship
    -The 1st and 2nd amendment supporters who have seen their rights infringed upon
    -The millions who will not comply with irrational dictates
    -Anyone who values freedom or justice
    -The millions who fear an authoritarian police state more than they fear propaganda and intimidation tactics
    -Our elected officials who may still have the courage to do what is right.
    -Our military that has as duty to defend the republic
    -Our President who has made an oath to uphold the constitution and defend the nation from enemies both foreign and domestic.
    And upon who does it fall to do anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpalios View Post
    https://twitter.com/amuse/status/133...009423872?s=19

    I'll be honest.....I don't even know what this means, and REALLY don't know if it matters. It doesn't seem too difficult to have a REAL actual audited recount to be 1000% sure the correct person for the president is actually the one people voted for.

    https://twitter.com/MichaelCoudrey/s...77383202783232

    This a SHOCKING admission from the Fulton County GA Elections Director.


    They adjudicated 94% of ballots. A voter panel then determines “voter intent”, meaning they can CHANGE the votes.


    Forensic analysis now shows there is NO audit trail for the adjudication process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yngvi View Post
    -The up to 50% of small business owners who had their assets seized
    -The 15%+ now constantly living in fear of eviction or losing their house
    -The small business employees who had to leave their relatively comfortable $20/hr job to take an extremely uncomfortable $10/hr job at Amazon.
    -The unemployed or underemployed tech workers who have been displaced by H1-B visas
    -The hundreds of thousands suffocating under student loan debt they will never be able to pay off
    -The hundreds of millions of people censored, threatened, intimidated and persecuted for wrong-think
    -The millions of veterans who fought for their country, only to see it being maliciously disassembled and destroyed.
    -The Millennials and Zoomers who know it is extremely unlikely they will ever achieve anything remotely close the the living standards enjoyed by the Boomers and GenXers.
    -The Boomers and GenXers who may never have grandchildren, but are paying high taxes to support massive immigration
    -The millions fleeing from the ruins of once-prosperous cities
    -The hundreds of thousands victimized by criminals the Soros DAs are unwilling to prosecute
    -The millions who have seen a gradual deterioration of their living standards over the past 50 years and a rapid deterioration over the past year.
    -The millions who have seen their towns thrown into poverty and heroin addiction as their jobs were outsourced to China and drug cartels from south of the border were given illegal immunity
    -The hundreds of thousands of immigrants who fled Hong Kong, South Africa, Venezuela, Vietnam and the Soviet Republic.
    -The millions who now live in a foreign city in their own home countries after 50 years of multiculturalism and "massive demographic change"
    -The hundreds of thousands fired from quasi-monopolistic corporations that are posting record profits
    -Religious groups who are not allowed to congregate or worship
    -The 1st and 2nd amendment supporters who have seen their rights infringed upon
    -The millions who will not comply with irrational dictates
    -Anyone who values freedom or justice
    -The millions who fear an authoritarian police state more than they fear propaganda and intimidation tactics
    -Our elected officials who may still have the courage to do what is right.
    -Our military that has as duty to defend the republic
    -Our President who has made an oath to uphold the constitution and defend the nation from enemies both foreign and domestic.
    All of this has been going on for the last 15yrs, well except this one.


    "Our elected officials who may still have the courage to do what is right."

    that one was pretty funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiva Kaul View Post
    A significant evolution, favoring infectiousness over mortality rate, already occurred in the spring.

    This relates to the vaccine. By all accounts, the Pfizer mRNA vaccine is safe and effective, isolating an essential functional component of the virus: the surface-level spike protein. However, it presents this protein in isolation; the immune response is not as comprehensive as in actual infection. The protein's location at the surface makes it a convenient therapeutic target, but also prone to mutation. Overall, the vaccine is relatively susceptible to genetic variation.
    This is a great point about the vaccine targeting only the spike protein. There are other proteins contained in the virus's membrane some of which are common to other coronaviruses, unlike the spike protein which is unique to this virus. This commonality in proteins forms the basis of T-Cell cross-immunity. By vaccinating healthy, low-risk individuals we may be robbing them of the ability to form additional cross-immunity against other coronaviruses that may be seen in the future.

    Then again, I read a Q&A today with some health professionals claiming that the mRNA vaccine will not prevent a COVID infection, it will only lessen the severity of the infection. They also claimed that you will still be infectious to boot. So, if I am at low risk of serious illness from COVID, why would I receive this vaccine if the only benefit to me is preventing something which is already a low probability event for me? Given that this mRNA vaccine is essentially experimental, the risk/reward ratio seems terribly out of whack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpalios View Post
    https://twitter.com/rothbard1776/sta...464359941?s=21

    There's a video of this at the end of the tweet thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldDog View Post
    Comments at that link indicate that was just a resolution and it was not passed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newguyray View Post
    This is a great point about the vaccine targeting only the spike protein. There are other proteins contained in the virus's membrane some of which are common to other coronaviruses, unlike the spike protein which is unique to this virus. This commonality in proteins forms the basis of T-Cell cross-immunity. By vaccinating healthy, low-risk individuals we may be robbing them of the ability to form additional cross-immunity against other coronaviruses that may be seen in the future.

    Then again, I read a Q&A today with some health professionals claiming that the mRNA vaccine will not prevent a COVID infection, it will only lessen the severity of the infection. They also claimed that you will still be infectious to boot. So, if I am at low risk of serious illness from COVID, why would I receive this vaccine if the only benefit to me is preventing something which is already a low probability event for me? Given that this mRNA vaccine is essentially experimental, the risk/reward ratio seems terribly out of whack.
    Absolutely and totally a function of the media hysteria. These people are the greatest threat civilization has ever faced.

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