She has firmly stated her 0.00 tolerance for death of children. What is her tolerance for eternal damnation of said children? Surely there are low-cost preventative measures?
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If you are attempting to refer to me, please let me what I have told many others in my personal life. I am not as concerned if I, myself get COVID. Chances are I will likely survive. However, I am employed as a Physician Assistant and work in in-patient Cardiology. My greater concern is that I don't spread it to others around me who might not be as lucky. However, I have seen otherwise healthy 30-somethings come back into the hospital who have had strokes and pulmonary embolisms after they were treated for COVID due to the thromboembolic nature of the disease. This seems unpleasant and I would prefer not to get it to begin with, but my greater concern is for those around me.
Please go back to the original question that I reposted regarding the scenario. Once again, it was not "my" scenario. Although I later did mention children specifically later on the original question revolved around any family member or close friend's death that could have been avoided had precautions been followed. The second half of your response tends to focus on anonymous people at adult care facilities. The point of the question was to make it so you are more personally affected. That is why I brought up hypothetical children. However, given your response to the adult care facilities I am under the impression that if your mom or dad was at such a facility you would have picked them up immediately and cared for them at home. You are a damn saint i'm sure.
Using your twisted view of stats all causes of death are trivial. As of this month COVID has beat out heart disease as the leading cause of death in the country. Keep in mind that the article below was from the beginning of December and things are getting worse.
COVID Passes Heart Disease as Top U.S. Killer
Once again, please be consistent with your logic.
I'd be willing to bet, BIG MONEY, that you have been the cause of someone's death. You have given someone a cold, flu, stomach virus, etc...someone got it and didn't make it. You sneezed, coughed, touched something with an infected hand, and it spread to someone who was immunocompromised. Same with me.
Are you going to stop everything now? Will you become a shut in to prevent this from happening again? Or does the fact that it isn't called covid not a big deal to you?
The cold my niece got several years ago that killed her... Maybe I gave it to her. I hope I did not. (she was severely immuno-compromised).
The cause of infection that killed my mom 2 years ago... Maybe it was from me. But I wouldn't trade the last 3 weeks we had with my mom for anything.
What a cunt.
I'm not sure which you suck at worse: risk evaluation, reading comprehension, or mind reading.
The irony of course, is that in "perceiving" folks here as bad people and hypocrites, you've only exposed yourself as both.
Well done.
You have no idea what anyone's attitude is about people dying of Covid or car accidents based upon comments here. "That sucks but people die [insert almost anything here] every day." is simply stating the the facts. Assuming some nonchalant attitude towards those facts by stating them as such is just your own self righteousness talking.
Get over yourself.
And what about the "nonchalant attitude" of the people who catch it? Staying 6+' away from anyone not wearing a mask doesn't seem terribly difficult to do....I mean if I actually thought doing otherwise might kill me.
People like you almost make me wish for a deadly pandemic that targeted self righteous 105s.
There's no reason to accept that not wearing a mask has killed anyone.
"If the current (silly) government measures taken to tackle Covid-19 saved the life of the one person you loved most (eg. Mom, nephew, Steph, a past University lecturer) who happened to be in one of the most vulnerable demographics at maximum risk of Covid-19 death eg. auto-immune disorder, would you be willing to allow these measures to stay in place regardless of the consequences to everybody else - yes or no?"
-Robin UK
Maybe assuming a 105 IQ is probably too much?
You can't grasp that that question has two groups of people dying and only one group being saved?
It isn't a question of would you save someone's life. It is a question of which group of people do you save and which do you let die.
I would hate to be in the position of making such choices, but all other things being equal, grandma dies and the young healthy people dying because of the shutdowns get to live. The vast majority of people dying of Covid related anything have either lived a very long life already or have not taken care of the one that they have been given.
This is all that comes from arguing with people who FEEL correct. They FEEL they are being reasonable. They FEEL as if their "sacrifices" and your sacrifices are worthwhile, and since they FEEL intellectually superior because the Correct People on TV agree with them... they'll decide for you.
The ratio of these people who will be willing to change their minds by thinking and debate is only dwarfed by the general populace at risk of dying with the SARS-COV-2 virus. They might even be more rare than those who die from it.
But suit yourselves.
First of all, you haven't shown that the "current government measures" will save any lives. It could be argued that they will destroy more lives than they save. You have no data on this. So, you either are trying to incite people on this board or you are very immature in your thoughts. It's a totally unrealistic scenario. This kind of theory questioning based on false unproven premises are pointless. Perhaps your intention is to just start a fight? And if so, why do you do this behind the safety of your keyboard? There are many lessons you can learn by doing this in-person, lessons of which I see you desperately need.
If you really want to delve into the psychology of "hypocrisy", why don't you ask yourself this question: if you could save the lives of your children by not having them, would you remove your uterus? If you do, we'll throw it in the trash next to your brain.
This guy's IRS story during the Obama years is quite interesting. I didn't read the actual case, so I don't know how slanted this story is, but it seems plausible.
It seems like running a campaign based on addressing government corruption, reducing government power, etc could be a good platform to run on. Victims of abusive government are getting elected...
Georgia gun store owner elected to Congress takes aim at IRS, firearm laws | Fox News
You would not know a bullshit statistic from an anvil. How many times do I have to post evidence that the death coding generates bullshit statistics before you begin thinking about things and stop feeling about them? But I think your "Front line health care worker" schtick gets you out of logical inquiry every day.
So you demand proof for the side you disagree with, yet are perfectly accepting of speculation when it comes to supporting your views. This seems to sum of the arguments on this board quite nicely. This is why your arguments (not just you, but a lot of posters) are contradictory and hypocritical. But please do carry on. I am apparently merely a female with an IQ of 105, which I am not really sure how either of those things are insults.
I used to be a debate competition judge. My specialty was extemporaneous arguments. My God some of these kids were impressive! Rightly so, they were looking at college applications. Some of my peer judges scored based on classical answers but I always fought for out of the box reasoning.
In any case, our front line health worker friend doesn’t understand the fundamentals of rhetoric. That’s ok, not everyone does. It’s all mildly amusing to me at its worst but I would be happy to help teach too.
Is this a good reason to bring back E&P? ( I did lose $50 betting that Calvin wasn’t a lawyer if that carries any weight)
Well done!
This is the argument of infinite regress I was (badly) alluding to. Why not take it back all the way to the Big Bang? Because some idiot will ask what came before the Big Bang and who took such cavalier risk of getting creation started.