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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovan Dragisic View Post
    You're a national socialist. You all are. You want a national socialist government, economy, all that jazz. I personally don't mind the fact that you are racists and misogynists, I mind the socialist part. I've been there, I know how it ends up. Pinochet was right, they should throw you out of helicopters, the lot of you, "right" or "left" socialists.
    Jovan please allow me to make the same old mistake that I always make with you on this general "nazi" subject, and assume you're *not* just being facetious, detached and ironic and you wouldn't actually mind a society where the government extrajudiciously executes their political enemies... I'm not mad at it. It happens in our socities, anyway.

    Your only complaint is a... material one? Your only issue is about how the economy is run?

    We do know that Liberal thought has lead to as much fuckery as anything that came before it, including absolute monarchy. I recognise that power comes from the top down regardless.

    And you've sampled Communism, which was international and antithetical to blood and soil Nationalism. You won't accept that observation, because someone in both cases taxes you, claims to know how to run a country better than you and spends your money for you.

    We've now all endured capitalism. Honest people just call it Neoliberalism or you call it "CrOnY cApItAliSm" if you're a Lolbertarian.

    Libertarian, full-fat free market economics only exists in the pages of books written by people who emigrated out of Germany and Eastern Europe in WW2, who used to be commies, but realised the middle classes were more politically useful when kept alive, relatively happy and relatively wealthy. It serves to lure people with autistic traits into a political dead-end. It encourages them to mentally masturbate themselves into oblivion while the people who have, y'know, the actual power run completely roughshod over them with impunity.

    You can't have just "the right amount" or a little bit of Liberalism. It's binary. America 2024 IS the end product of Liberal thought. To be quite honest, I don't give a fuck which economic model is selected as long as my own people don't get erased from history. Not everyone only cares about economics, and taxation - and have a sense of their "own people, still. We do know a few things: human beings do not think or behave first and foremost as individuals. Human beings are social, tribal, group animals. So, pick a form of government which doesn't pretend to ignore human nature and history. Your own country is marred by inter-ethnic conflict, which you more than once held up as a warning of the danger of group-think and racialised politics. No, all it does is illustrate my point. If two different ethnic tribes who have locally rubbed shoulders for hundreds or a thousand years can't get along and want to murder each other, how the fuck is this White erasure through mass immigration going to pan out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Jackson View Post
    Jovan please allow me to make the same old mistake that I always make with you on this general "nazi" subject, and assume you're *not* just being facetious, detached and ironic and you wouldn't actually mind a society where the government extrajudiciously executes their political enemies... I'm not mad at it. It happens in our socities, anyway.

    Your only complaint is a... material one? Your only issue is about how the economy is run?

    We do know that Liberal thought has lead to as much fuckery as anything that came before it, including absolute monarchy. I recognise that power comes from the top down regardless.

    And you've sampled Communism, which was international and antithetical to blood and soil Nationalism. You won't accept that observation, because someone in both cases taxes you, claims to know how to run a country better than you and spends your money for you.

    We've now all endured capitalism. Honest people just call it Neoliberalism or you call it "CrOnY cApItAliSm" if you're a Lolbertarian.

    Libertarian, full-fat free market economics only exists in the pages of books written by people who emigrated out of Germany and Eastern Europe in WW2, who used to be commies, but realised the middle classes were more politically useful when kept alive, relatively happy and relatively wealthy. It serves to lure people with autistic traits into a political dead-end. It encourages them to mentally masturbate themselves into oblivion while the people who have, y'know, the actual power run completely roughshod over them with impunity.

    You can't have just "the right amount" or a little bit of Liberalism. It's binary. America 2024 IS the end product of Liberal thought. To be quite honest, I don't give a fuck which economic model is selected as long as my own people don't get erased from history. Not everyone only cares about economics, and taxation - and have a sense of their "own people, still. We do know a few things: human beings do not think or behave first and foremost as individuals. Human beings are social, tribal, group animals. So, pick a form of government which doesn't pretend to ignore human nature and history. Your own country is marred by inter-ethnic conflict, which you more than once held up as a warning of the danger of group-think and racialised politics. No, all it does is illustrate my point. If two different ethnic tribes who have locally rubbed shoulders for hundreds or a thousand years can't get along and want to murder each other, how the fuck is this White erasure through mass immigration going to pan out?
    Ok, dude, I have taken the trouble to bold some of your own words. You are a national socialist. As in, you care about the nation first, and you want a socialist type of ordering of society. It's not just the economy, you want a bunch of silly shit like for instance the state to find you a suitable woman outside of your league to "breed" her and continue your obviously superior genetic line which will be unable to read more than 15 minutes at a time. German makes heavy use of compound nouns, so a guy like you in German would be called a (ein) Nationalsozialist. They read the first letter t as ts, which they write as z. So the abbreviation is Nazi. Nati-, read as Natsi, spelled Nazi. I don't understand what your problem with the terminology is, this is just what you are. I have no idea why you guys run from the term, but it speaks to how much I can count on guys like you if (I hope when) everyone goes bankrupt and I get to form guerilla squads to deal with the problem. Meaning not at all, you don't get into fights unless it's 10 to 1.

    I will under no circumstances get into a debate with you about liberalism. It would be completely pointless, I have read the source material from which you draw your bullet points, you have read abbreviations of abbreviations compounded for you by a bunch of grifters. It would be like that guy Athlean X or whatever his name his, the one who got caught deadlifting foam plates, challenging Chase Lindley to a press competition. Liberalism - with all of its offshoots like libertarianism and "anarcho" "capitalism" - is just a form of corporatism, meaning fascism. Fascism has a bunch of problems, but at least it is able to create something, so it is a million times better than the sweet embrace of the nanny state in which I would for instance have to share an opinion with you, just because we are the same blood or nation or whatever idiotic abstraction you want to term your inability to score a hot chick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovan Dragisic View Post
    Ok, dude, I have taken the trouble to bold some of your own words. You are a national socialist. As in, you care about the nation first, and you want a socialist type of ordering of society. It's not just the economy, you want a bunch of silly shit like for instance the state to find you a suitable woman outside of your league to "breed" her and continue your obviously superior genetic line which will be unable to read more than 15 minutes at a time. German makes heavy use of compound nouns, so a guy like you in German would be called a (ein) Nationalsozialist. They read the first letter t as ts, which they write as z. So the abbreviation is Nazi. Nati-, read as Natsi, spelled Nazi. I don't understand what your problem with the terminology is, this is just what you are. I have no idea why you guys run from the term, but it speaks to how much I can count on guys like you if (I hope when) everyone goes bankrupt and I get to form guerilla squads to deal with the problem. Meaning not at all, you don't get into fights unless it's 10 to 1.

    I will under no circumstances get into a debate with you about liberalism. It would be completely pointless, I have read the source material from which you draw your bullet points, you have read abbreviations of abbreviations compounded for you by a bunch of grifters. It would be like that guy Athlean X or whatever his name his, the one who got caught deadlifting foam plates, challenging Chase Lindley to a press competition. Liberalism - with all of its offshoots like libertarianism and "anarcho" "capitalism" - is just a form of corporatism, meaning fascism. Fascism has a bunch of problems, but at least it is able to create something, so it is a million times better than the sweet embrace of the nanny state in which I would for instance have to share an opinion with you, just because we are the same blood or nation or whatever idiotic abstraction you want to term your inability to score a hot chick.
    I kind of agreed with Matt until I saw those bold words in your post, I had no idea that bold mean what people REALLY meant.

    Just out of interest, because I haven’t read those source materials. Can you define liberalism and what it means? In theory and what it means in practice? I know how people in day to day life think of and use political terminologies differ from their technical meanings.

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