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    Quote Originally Posted by johnst_nhb View Post
    I get home and often change into "inside clothes."

    Thats a far cry from "no outside clothes worn inside."
    Guys, please...

    Quote Originally Posted by bearalift View Post
    We can continue debate the specifics, but we should at least agree on this general point: that one of these risks ain't like the others.
    This is absolutely true. Only one of them is destroying the economy of the entire planet.

    And this may be an important development: Coronavirus: Anti-parasitic drug Ivermectin kills COVID-19 in lab within 48 hours | 7NEWS.com.au

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldfire View Post
    Is it really that hard to take some random population sample and test for antibodies to get a good estimate regarding the spread of the virus?
    To do it in a way that is meaningful, yes. It would have to be large scale and repeated over a long enough period of time to help fit a curve. You'd be surprised how hard it is to do relatively simple things when you are trying to prove something.

    How long into the infection do you form antibodies? How robust a response do you have to have to test positive for antibodies? How specific are the antibodies for this particular coronavirus as opposed to the many other known and unknown coronaviruses? These questions take a while to answer, which is why they aren't answered yet, even though there is an insane amount of time and money being thrown at this thing right now.

    By the time we have good solid answers to most of the important questions, the time for action will have passed. An unfortunate fact of life, and not just related to coronavirus.

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    No lockdown here: Sweden defends its more relaxed coronavirus strategy
    Sweden coronavirus approach is very different from the rest of Europe

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    I’m assuming that any business that was deemed non-essential by our benevolent leaders can forego paying taxes furthermore since their tax dollars must also be non-essential.

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    I think we're gonna see this stay how it is until the public gets pissed off more than they're scared. Right now the virus has a lot of weird variables we hear about that no one seems to have adequately explained. The incentive for our leaders, from the president on down, is to beat those doom-models' numbers, especially when it comes to the President himself, since he's looking at a re-election soon. Even if his opponent already has one foot in the door of the nursing home (I'm not even saying that as a joke, the man's public appearances actually make me sad for him), he knows the media at large is going to be hammering him over however he responds or doesn't respond to this virus (they already are). He wants to beat those scary numbers, and the more we beat those scary numbers by, the better a talking point it becomes for his campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Harlin View Post
    I’m assuming that any business that was deemed non-essential by our benevolent leaders can forego paying taxes furthermore since their tax dollars must also be non-essential.
    That's been mentioned. If we're being deprived of the use of the property at value, then for the period of time the use is affected I'm going to calculate my taxes differently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldfire View Post
    Is it really that hard to take some random population sample and test for antibodies to get a good estimate regarding the spread of the virus?
    Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jovan Dragisic View Post
    It does not take long for someone to decide that there is an disproportionate number of infections among say, black people in a major city, or white people, Asian people, Arab immigrants (a major source of tension in Europe these days), rich people, poor people and so on. Things can spiral out of control at a fairly rapid pace from then on, bringing to the fore a lot of previously built up resentment, which easily turns to open confrontations that have to be quelled by large scale police or even military deployment. Then somebody gets shot, the cops get accused of racism or whatever, and escalations become even more of a threat. France, for instance, gets street rioting at least once every two years.
    ...Or for somebody to hit a random guy with their car, because they were spotted coughing in a parking lot. (it is out there. Can't find the article I read) This sort of thing is already happening.

    To prevent it, we get heartwarming tales from the police state: 99-year-old charged after attending engagement party despite state ban on gatherings

    The 99 year old man was charged with several counts of child endangerment for gathering with 10 people in a private home to celebrate an engagement.

    Quote Originally Posted by hreed View Post
    The US isn't under martial law. Geez.
    So, their restrictions on gatherings, 2nd amendment rights, 3rd amendment rights, restrictions on movements, government seizure of private property, illegal surveillance, etc. are merely widespread violations of our constitutional rights, instead of martial law? How comforting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jovan Dragisic View Post
    ...all the polling strongly suggests that citizens the world over are demanding even stricter measures.
    Ah yes, the will of the people. Devolution from constitutional republic to democracy to police state.

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    This thread started with a guy extolling the virtues of The Free Market.
    Let's get back to it a second and see what the Free Market brings in a crisis like this.

    Free Market begets Free Trade. And Free Trade begets delocalisation of the production of a lot of goods to a very limited number of places (via the Ricardian argument of Comparative Advantage).
    A Free Market world is a world where almost every country becomes over-reliant on a globalised supply chain.
    In normal circumstances, this is not a problem. But in exceptional circumstances, where national interests trumps economic ideology, it is.
    Someone seems to have finally twigged on this:

    https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/statu...01634942959616


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    Coronavirus: The Hammer and the Dance - Tomas Pueyo - Medium

    Some people at least seem to be putting some thought into the relative cost benefits of the various methods of reducing transfer rates.

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    Something absolutely critical was mentioned in the latest podcast which I've not seen mentioned elsewhere, and it bears repeating. This response to the pandemic has set a precedent. What happens next time? What happens when there is a third outbreak of bird flu, or swine flu comes back for the second time? How will business be treated in the capital markets now everyone is aware that some businesses are 'essential' and others 'non-essential?' How much worse will future governments react now they can count on a total capitulation by an easily terrified and unthinking population to whatever measures they propose? An unimaginably important fight is about to occur between the view that the approaching economic collapse is simply 'the price to pay' for supposedly saving millions of lives, and the view that it was a disastrous mistake inflicted on us entirely unnecessarily by over-reaching governments. Whichever view prevails is going to determine an enormous part of our future.

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