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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Charles View Post
    A cell phone that is on, receiving, waiting for a call, transmits every so often. It does this to make sure you are connected to a tower. This is the reason you want to turn your phone off on an airplane. So the battery doesn’t drain when it can’t find a tower.

    There is always a record of what tower you were connected to and when. It won’t locate you to within feet, like gps, but to within a few miles of the tower.

    I have no idea who has access to tower records.
    Alright, I guess invasion of privacy happens far below the level of the phone OS.

    Certainly tower "operators" can access the logs, which to me is "the phone company". And can't the government can ask for phone company records?

    I do know with certainty that the government requires taps built into telephony equipment. See CALEA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yngvi View Post
    This is one of the only phones I have seen that takes measures to prevent all tracking.
    Librem 5 – Purism
    Cool, but the enthusiasm over details of the Intel Management Engine by geeks spooks me.

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    For those wondering about the phone tracking, my brother just drove from Minnesota to Florida to visit his fiancé. He didn't get hit with any texts, but I warned him about the tracking. I'm curious to see what his return is like since he has to go through Illinois and Kentucky.

    For those who haven't yet, check out "Dumbing Us Down" and "Weapons of Mass Instruction" by John Taylor Gatto. Nick Delgadillo mentioned him on the podcast about homeschooling. They're a fascinating look into why so many people have just willingly given in to this stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Le Comte View Post
    This might be too radical, but surely you can just turn off your phone.
    A new motivation to go off-grid.

    Invest in propane (if markets persist).

    Buy radios, amplifiers, and repeaters. Distribute as necessary.

    Very Man-in-the-High-Castle, without the movie reels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yngvi View Post
    Don't willingly let them arrest you as a martyr. You will be able to do much less good if you are in jail.

    I feel I may need to extrapolate a little more on the Dalio video.

    My comment about redistribution of wealth comes from Dalio's statements that the wealth gap, both within the country and internationally among countries is a crisis that needs to be fixed. If you watch Ray Dalio's videos, the only tool that he frequently proposes to fix this wealth gap is "redistribution of wealth" both within a country and among countries. He admits he is a staunch globalist. He sees this as part of a "global deleveraging", in which there are four tools to fix the problem, of which wealth redistribution is the only substantive way to equalize wealth inequality. And since no reasonable person or country willingly decides it is fair to severely cut their own standard of living in order to pay handouts to strangers who have done nothing to deserve it, the redistribution would necessarily be forced under Dalio's plan.



    This is one of the only phones I have seen that takes measures to prevent all tracking.
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    I'm going to piggy back your and Jovan's line of dialogue and put a plug in for thelasypsychiatrist.com. He hasn't updated his blog in years, but if you read through some of his later posts (e.g. Hipsters on Foodstamps) he's got some very interesting analyses of how modern society operates.

    The Last Psychiatrist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovan Dragisic View Post
    . . . find some manual labour in a godless place . . .
    Go East young man.

    (Fun writer. Reminds me of Scaldrew.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewG View Post

    Looks like the so called "best" British news broadcaster the BBC in the UK have a suggested solution for how we can all live to combat a crisis like this one.

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    Just as I expected the UK Government has gone ahead with the idea...

    UK app to track coronavirus spread to be launched | Politics | The Guardian

    What are people's thoughts on this app?

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    Regarding our current situation, here are the options I can make out.

    A

    We heavily prioritize minimization of total deaths. This involves keeping transmission at essentially a screeching halt until anti-virals and/or vaccine are ready.

    This is likely to be at least a year, and quite possibly years (I may update my thinking on this once I learn more about vaccines).

    Our society will be damaged beyond belief if this strategy is taken, and it will only be effective if everyone plays the same game.


    B

    We go back to "normal", and achieve rapid herd immunity. Assuming an infection CFR of 0.5 percent, this will mean about 35 million deaths worldwide, and about 1.5 million deaths in the United States.

    This would be catastrophic, to be sure, and may damage our society in ways more horrific than we can imagine.


    C

    We contract and expand periodically, essentially allowing for periodic "blood letting". We eventually reach herd immunity. Even if anti-virals and vaccines aren't developed, less people die in total compared to B, because herd immunity protects those who haven't achieved immunity. I think you need ~70 percent of population to be immune for herd immunity, but I haven't yet gone down that rabbit hole. And the slower timescale of this strategy compared to B allows for more time for antivirals/vaccine development.


    D

    We find a stable middle ground where transmission is allowed, but at a smaller rate. This means that peak demand on healthcare system is not "overwhelming", but deaths will still occur, both in the obviously vulnerable, and in the smaller cohort of young healthy adults that this virus seems to capriciously target. As in C, herd immunity is eventually achieved, and more time is granted for antivirals/vaccine development.


    The best strategy may differ from community to community, and here's the bitter twist:

    The more information we have (about the virus, or about how many people are currently infected/already recovered), the more optimal our decision making will be. But we need time for more information, which increases the damage of what we are currently doing.

    This is an optimization problem, to be sure, and it may not be an easy one.

    Are there any options I've missed? Does anyone disagree with any of the premises?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    I say truck them to PETA HQ and set them free. Virginia needs some feral hogs to play with.
    But what will PETA feed the little piggies to help them grow big and strong?

    Oh right, all the humans coded as COVID deaths. Let feed lots replace the crematoriums. It won't be the first time hogs have been used to dispose of human remains.

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