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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Yes, a simple football game could easily mean the end of all human life on the planet.
    No, but it could cause problems. HBO Real Sports recently had an interesting segment on a spring training baseball game in Florida. This is the abbreviated version. A few minutes long. The last part shows how they can track people through cellphones. Again, this is just a spring training baseball game attended by less than 10,000 people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiva Kaul View Post
    The Stanford paper still has a math error in the demographically-weighted CI.
    Oh my god. I guess you and SD are well along the spectrum. It's the only explanation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buddy Rich View Post
    No, but it could cause problems. HBO Real Sports recently had an interesting segment on a spring training baseball game in Florida. This is the abbreviated version. A few minutes long. The last part shows how they can track people through cellphones. Again, this is just a spring training baseball game attended by less than 10,000 people

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    Right. Don't take your cell phone everywhere you go. Not anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Oh my god. I guess you and SD are well along the spectrum. It's the only explanation.



    Right. Don't take your cell phone everywhere you go. Not anymore.
    That train sailed about fifteen years ago. Cell phones have always tracked you, but it did get better with GPS sensors. The whole big brother fight is over and done with. Your information is out there, and it's for sale. Snowden is a traitor. Facebook maintains profiles on people who never even register an account. Alexa and Siri are always listening and always learning.

    May as well move on from that one. Time to stop worrying and learn to love the bomb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Le Comte View Post
    Lets flip this on its head with a hypothetical. Say a foreign power was going to invade. You have two options:
    1 surrender early - accept 70k casualties, mass economic shut down, mass lockdown and curfews for a couple of months, then return to a new world
    2 fight - risk a (much?) higher level of casualties, have some unknown economic impact (unknown to be better or worse), but be sure that your political system and liberties have not changed.

    Which would you do?
    Which of these was this country built upon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RKC View Post
    Fight. Always, and in every sense of the word. Fight.
    Anyone here that wouldnt?

    Just noticed the IHME site now has recommended safe dates to ease social distancing based on date for the model to reach 1 case per million! Shows Texas recommended not to ease until 14 June! Good Grief!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soule View Post
    Many people are quietly waiting for somebody to speak up against the tide of morons.
    That has been my observation and experience as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Le Comte View Post
    Lets flip this on its head with a hypothetical. Say a foreign power was going to invade. You have two options:
    1 surrender early - accept 70k casualties, mass economic shut down, mass lockdown and curfews for a couple of months, then return to a new world
    2 fight - risk a (much?) higher level of casualties, have some unknown economic impact (unknown to be better or worse), but be sure that your political system and liberties have not changed.

    Which would you do?
    Any ambitious foreign power has but to observe our current state of panic and disarray over this current tempest in a teapot and it'd be hey presto, Red Dawn in short order. With just a little softening up from some germ warfare spread by drones over NYC, LA, Chicago, and Miami. We'd be on the brink of collapse before they put boots on the ground.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shiva Kaul View Post
    The Stanford paper still has a math error in the demographically-weighted CI. The unweighted CI seems fine.
    Something-something first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take out the speck that is in your brother's eye something-something. Not to get all biblical on you and $h!t you understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Le Comte View Post
    Lets flip this on its head with a hypothetical. Say a foreign power was going to invade. You have two options:
    1 surrender early - accept 70k casualties, mass economic shut down, mass lockdown and curfews for a couple of months, then return to a new world
    2 fight - risk a (much?) higher level of casualties, have some unknown economic impact (unknown to be better or worse), but be sure that your political system and liberties have not changed.

    Which would you do?
    It's not a foreign power. There is an enormous difference between ideology and natural threats. No one (or very few people) are running around with the express intention of spreading a virus, because people value their own health and act rationally by avoiding infecting others. A foreign power is the exact opposite, it's people with an ideology which is explicitly does not value your health and therefore confrontation by force is inevitable.

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    The more knowledge and capacity for rational thought a society has, the less governing it needs.

    Do you find this statement less infuritating?
    Perhaps. It is certainly lower on the self-righteous volume dial, but it still relies on the premise that someone “rational” knows better than someone “irrational”. Those are arbitrary definitions and relative to someone else’s perception. One persons trash is another’s treasure and all that.

    I personally find many reactions to the current crisis to be quite “irrational” while many others like yourself find them quite reasonable. Which one of us requires less governing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spacediver View Post
    You'd be an asshole to do something that you knew put others at risk. I'm assuming that the assholes are less prevalent than ignorant people.
    Like driving?

    You keep using the false notion that, outside of what would be normal prekung flu crime, there is some way in which people going back to their normal lives would put people who are afraid to do so at risk.

    There's nothing to back that notion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiva Kaul View Post
    Is there any evidence that "confirmed" deaths are being misreported?
    This is either trolling or a serious case of head-stuck-in-sand.

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