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    Quote Originally Posted by David A. Rowe View Post
    I'm not faulting you for feeling that way. I feel that way, and by second hand. I'm collecting a paycheck and working, but I'm watching my friends and hometown collapse financially. I'm just stating it because I feel it's important to say these things in times like these.

    We once rolled a guy up who they wouldn't let us kill. I processed his belongings. He had a LOT of child porn on him, and he was in a lot of it. He was also responsible for financing the local groups spreading new IED materials and TTPs. I could have, and thought about, walking up to his temporary holding cell and turning his head into a fucking canoe. It would've been the end of my career, marriage and freedom, but I wouldn't have lost sleep over the killing, itself.

    But something has to separate us from him, or we all go down the road where the German police found themselves -- from "just doing my job" to shooting pregnant women in the back of the head.

    I love this board, this community, and what everyone has built. I love this country. I feel singularly inadequate, but I'm not giving up on any of it.
    I disagree.

    People who use the "I am just doing my job." excuse usually are doing it, and doing it within the bounds of the law.

    The law is a servant, not a master. It is there to affirm the self-existing rights of people and to codify justice, but it only has legitimacy to the degree that it gets those things right. Bad laws SHOULD be disregarded and disobeyed.

    MAYBE one could argue that a more emotionally detached "official" authority might lead to the ability to have better and more just judgement, but I doubt it and have no problem with actual justice coming however it may. Most of what happens in our legal system has zero to do with justice anyway. There's a small amount of protection for people by taking criminals out of the general population, but true justice involves making victims whole, which rarely ever happens.

    I worked with a guy who caught a fellow tenant in his apartment building red handed messing with kids. That fellow tenant found himself running nude behind a pickup truck with fishing line attached to his unmentionables. How that is somehow less just than anything the state would have done IF they even convicted him is beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Please understand, David. I'm not actually advocating the lynching of bureaucrats and public officials. I'm just fantasizing about it. The jerking motions as they are hoisted off the ground -- no short drop for the motherfuckers -- the kicking as they strangle slowly, like we're doing. And then when they shit themselves in death, the sweet smell of revenge.
    Can you please state your point in common English? This sounds too unhinged for a self-professed ‘intelligent man.’ Maybe make your point with some cogency. That last sentence is monumentally indecipherable.

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    I don't think anybody else had any trouble understanding it, new guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    I don't think anybody else had any trouble understanding it, new guy.
    I’m sure you’re certain of that, old guy. Preach to the choir, if you will.

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    Hiring, Blind Compliance, and dysfunctional leadership.

    Have you ever been passed over for a job? A Promotion? Or served on a hiring committee where the “best” person was not chosen?

    Well, the most likely answer is there was something wrong with YOU. However, there has been a clear trend over the last 30yrs or so and should be considered.

    Political correctness, in the corporate and vast civil service, gives favor to diversity over strict qualification. This may explain some of the current dysfunction. We all know that. But more insightful is that we favor those that exhibit risk aversion. People that follow rules over those that break rules. Compliance enforcers over innovators. The embracers of consensus over individual accountability.

    Can this explain how everything caved so quickly and easily under Covid? The risk isn’t any higher now, the deciders have a lower tolerance for risk. We’ve been calling people leaders that simply aren’t. Am I wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TDinBristol View Post
    I’m sure you’re certain of that, old guy. Preach to the choir, if you will.
    You truly don't comprehend that the sphincter relaxes in death causing evacuation of the bowels? What else is there to understand that requires further "cogency"? Or did you just finish an old Readers Digest increasing your word power?

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    Anyone who will voluntarily submit to testing for this is a fool.

    1) Those that control the tests and test results control the plan of the pandemic.
    - I mean, I hear goats are coming back positive in some places
    2) Even if your state, AT THIS TIME, is not releasing your info cops....how long before the data is used against you.
    - I mean, it IS for the greater good. Right?

    The media and the folks in charge are, in fact, our enemies.

    sb

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Christiansen View Post
    I disagree.

    People who use the "I am just doing my job." excuse usually are doing it, and doing it within the bounds of the law.

    The law is a servant, not a master. It is there to affirm the self-existing rights of people and to codify justice, but it only has legitimacy to the degree that it gets those things right. Bad laws SHOULD be disregarded and disobeyed.

    MAYBE one could argue that a more emotionally detached "official" authority might lead to the ability to have better and more just judgement, but I doubt it and have no problem with actual justice coming however it may. Most of what happens in our legal system has zero to do with justice anyway. There's a small amount of protection for people by taking criminals out of the general population, but true justice involves making victims whole, which rarely ever happens.

    I worked with a guy who caught a fellow tenant in his apartment building red handed messing with kids. That fellow tenant found himself running nude behind a pickup truck with fishing line attached to his unmentionables. How that is somehow less just than anything the state would have done IF they even convicted him is beyond me.
    Read the book Ordinary Men and then try not to be the cure that's worse than the disease.

    We are all capable of evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TDinBristol View Post
    I’m sure you’re certain of that, old guy. Preach to the choir, if you will.
    I not only understood his post, I got lost in my own vision of what justice would look like for some of these asshats who are seeking to destroy life as well know it in America. SMILE>>>

    People MUST understand this is not about a deadly virus. If it was, people who intuitively know to stay safe, at home, and take the necessary precautions with the available info via the internet and to a lesser extent TV.

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