I have serious doubts as to the brevity and tangentiality of this latest foray, as the “virus” has suffered from a loss of fear luster and has significantly exceeded the attention span of the average media consumer......briefly and tangentially?
I have serious doubts as to the brevity and tangentiality of this latest foray, as the “virus” has suffered from a loss of fear luster and has significantly exceeded the attention span of the average media consumer......briefly and tangentially?
Yeah, if they really stopped framing this as a racial issue it'd get sorted REAL fast. It's a police accountability issue. But maybe it's kept racial by design by the powers that be to keep it from being solved. Who even knows? We live under the umbrella of a web of lies.
Completely agree. I’m just pointing out that a perception exists within the black community that white cops who kill black people are predominantly found not guilty. That perception is what needs to be addressed. How that’s done is really not something I know how to answer.
Maybe it's just me, but these riots seem to be further strengthening Trump. Because when disorder on this scale breaks out, much of the otherwise independent and perhaps even a little of those who dislike Trump would pick order over the current chaos. Especially after Trump dangled the Insurrection Act in the Rose Garden yesterday and negating posse comitatusby sending in active duty troops to backstop state National Guard units. This happened in 92 during Operation Urban Storm in LA when they sent up a few units of Uncle Sam's Misguided Children in Strykers. THAT ended things quickly.
My observation from local cases is that the devil really IS in the details and the background of what led to the situation, not just the simple case portrayed by the media.
In a local case an officer that are held up as a racist / bad cop was almost silently exonerated on the back page of the newspaper 2 years later after the trial found him innocent. Turns out when witnesses gave testimony and the camera's were reviewed the cop had cause to fear for his life.
In Floyd's case it's more cut and dry, Chauvin was obviously abusing his power and using unnecessary force.
What's confusing to me is you can't say "I can't breathe" if you can't breathe. I've been choked out, I can't talk. That said, I've never been almost choked out for a long time, so maybe that's what happened?
The autopsy concluded: "The Hennepin County Medical Examiner concluded that Floyd died from a cardiac arrest while being restrained with "neck compression". Floyd complained he couldn't breathe while he was standing up. I googled around and I can't find a medical pathway whereby a neck compression causes cardiac arrest. I assume asphixiation?
I guess what I'm wondering is, did Floyd simply have a heart attack from the stress / other factors and the officer's biggest mistake outside of their abuse of power was failing to recognize his health condition and fail to respond appropriately because Chauvin simply didn't care if he died?
But it's generally agred upon by smokers, which is what makes the fact that they would buck if anti-social restrictions were permanently placed upon them....to save just one life.
These guys, guys who are out for revenge against childhood bullies, and cowards (and you can be all three) are the problem with law enforcement. Even when there are policy issues, they rely on these guys to facilitate them. I have a decent history of LE friends and and acquaintances and the ones that are not like this will more often than not simply neglect, if not outright refuse to do things like kicking families out of parks or worse.
I always say that I wouldn't be able to physically do the job if I was hired (not that I'd take the job, but god forbid I leave out the disclaimer) to join any of the African genocides of my lifetime. I simply wouldn't know who to shoot. And I grew up in a very black neighborhood outside NYC and was the unofficial champion of the unofficial guess my ethnicity game we used to play in Abu Dhabi, which is 80% foreigners. To be fair: a large majority were either Pakistanis, Indians or Bangladeshis, but I'll bet 90% of the board couldn't sort them by sight. I could do it by region after the first year there.
And the funny part is that in the many many times that I have been the lone grain of salt in the pepper (or cinnamon) shaker, I have regularly seen US blacks (and EVERY nonwhite in Abu Dhabi) sit around talking about each other and everyone else the way CNN likes to pretend US whites do about US blacks.
One can simply look into the crime rates in the US during the great depression of the last century (don't want to confuse future readers that I'm talking about the one we will likely see in our not so far future). Everything I have read with sources says that, outside of the illegal liquor trade related stuff, crime didn't really increase. And many of those people were actually poor. Not I have a home, cell phone, free money coming in the mail every month, don't have to bother looking for a job poor, but water down the broth again poor.
How many of the rioters had jobs before the lockdown? How many rioter's financial situation IMPROVED during lockdown?
The majority of people I see rioting are largely spoiled white commies and inner city hoodrats. The odds any of them have ever seen more than a minimum wage job is near nill in my experience....and their employer was likely being ripped off at that rate.
This is more or less my read too. If the problem were identified as a policing issue it would be more specific and we might get some productive results. Laws could be passed to increase accountability and reassert the idea that the police (should) serve the policed. But that's messy and some people might have their ox gored so we go the easy route: the problem isn't just with the police, it's with systemic racism and the conscious or unconscious racial bias of literally every human on Earth. The result is we undergo this collective, religious self-flagellation and scream our sins in the public square while the diffusion of responsibility and the lack of a specific entity to blame or reform means nothing actually gets done. We feel better though. Except for those people who had their shops burned.
I'll say, 2020 so far hasn't been a good advertising year for living in large cities. If the govt somehow allows you to run your business, rioters will burn it anyway. If the govt allows you to go outside, rioters will introduce a brick or two to your head.
Frank B, I completely agree that police unions bear a lot of responsibility for the inability of police forces across the country to rid themselves of bad cops (having been a teamster in my youth while going to school I can attest to union's role in keeping useless people employed and the roadblocks that are but up to prevent their firing). Additionally it is not perception that cops are rarely found guilty of wrong doing in the case of killing a civilian, those are the facts, what may be hidden beneath the surface is the reason so few are found guilty may be attributable to the role the criminal plays in getting himself shot (i.e. not obeying the lawful orders of a police officer), I looked at recent numbers and out of 100 police shootings ~1 will be tried and convicted, ~3 will be charged, that may be attributable to the fact that the vast majority of police officers are good in the US and not scumbags, this is supported by the fact that when you compare crime rates within police officer community you find that the rates for police officers are at least an order of magnitude lower than the population as a whole. I wholly support very stiff penalties for police when they are found to be in the wrong, they need to be held to a tight standard and generally I think they are, unfortunately the media in our country are more than happy to highlight the bad eggs and are generally inclined to paint all officers with the broad brush, which I find despicable. What bothers me is the willingness of our press, politicians and "elite" to denigrate the entire population of police in this country when the vast majority are simply performing their jobs to the best of their ability.
An individual with compromised cardiac function can certainly suffer a cardiac arrhythmia upon serious provocation, such as asphyxia, the stress of forcible immobilization, or panic from something akin to claustrophobia that might obviously occur if you're being crushed under the knee of a Piece of Shit who has no reason to fear you under the current circumstances and who you know to be a murderous Piece of Shit from having worked with him previously and who you might very reasonably assume is trying to kill you and you have no way to prevent it and the other Pieces of Shit standing around have demonstrated that they are going to do nothing to prevent the murder. Old people in very poor health frequently die upon waking up in the morning merely from the stress of awakening. It happens.
Is anybody seriously postulating that Floyd would have died anyway had he not been mashed under the knee of this pussy Chauvin? And there is this, although it is from ABC News and therefore probably a baldfaced lie: Independent autopsy finds George Floyd died of homicide by asphyxia - ABC News
And for the morons like lazyboy, Bruno, and Muntz who can't seem to see past the hospitals in NYC, this little item is indicative of what I've been trying to emphasize for 3 months: California Faces "Financial Collapse" As It Moves To Allow Businesses To Walk Away From Commercial Leases | Zero Hedge
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An interesting point:
It would also be helpful, though not to the “narrative,” to compare the percentage of individuals shot by race/ethnicity to arrest rates for violent crime.