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    Jimmy Dore represents the real, honest left and he has brilliant takes, especially when he critiques internationalist leftist politicians. In 2017 he explicitly told people not to vote for Hillary once Bernie had been torpedoed. He is the real deal, and has been open about his love for Tucker Carlson.

    Keep in mind, if you're a Don't-Tread-On-Me libertarian or conservative centre-right voter and find yourself nodding along to Jimmy Dore there, he is someone who takes folk down because they're not left enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikesandcars View Post
    Meet the new Republicans (Republicans plus Democrats) vs the new Democrats (Progressive socialists). Either way, you can't stuff all this unrest back into a neat little box without making a mess.
    Those two scenarios aren't so bad. The radical left might seem very prevalent but their numbers aren't so huge. There are just a lot of less radical lefties who act as apologists for them and overlook or excuse their insane views. Such as when the "defund/abolish police" initiative is discussed, the leading counter argument from left talking heads is essentially "it doesn't really mean that". If the radicals so alienate the more moderate democrats that they are all forced to become republicans, these looney toons will not have enough numbers to get the people they want into office without curbing their insane shit. The main power they wield is through the mob tactics they have been using for years. They are slandering and libeling opponents and scoring convictions in the court of public opinion, causing what amounts to extra-judicial punishment for crimes that are not actually crimes under the law. THAT is what makes the radicals actually dangerous (along with the unaddressed violent shit, which I think could easily be solved if state/local governments would use their police to deal with it).

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    Anyone willing to bet that Trump is not reelected?

    Given that he won last time by over 20% I don't see him losing. The desperation on the left is too obvious.

    Usual bet is $50 goes to the (legitimate) charity of winners choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VNV View Post

    And, no leave between boot and infantry school (MCT?), which is normally a 10 day break. Then, from MCT, straight to MOS school.
    Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayrsson View Post
    In Britain, from 1942, via the British media, the war became increasingly about Jews, due to stories about alleged homicidal gas chambers.
    This probably merits clarification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommanderFun View Post
    The radical left might seem very prevalent but their numbers aren't so huge.
    This is something I struggle to keep in mind. Being in Seattle it seems like the numbers are huge, so itís an anxiety provocation for me. I have to remind myself of the reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Charles View Post
    Anyone willing to bet that Trump is not reelected?

    Given that he won last time by over 20% I don't see him losing. The desperation on the left is too obvious.

    Usual bet is $50 goes to the (legitimate) charity of winners choice.
    Sure. Any chance youíre willing to scale the charitable donation to the margin of the losing candidateís loss? Charities need money in These Trying Times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommanderFun View Post
    Those two scenarios aren't so bad. The radical left might seem very prevalent but their numbers aren't so huge. There are just a lot of less radical lefties who act as apologists for them and overlook or excuse their insane views. Such as when the "defund/abolish police" initiative is discussed, the leading counter argument from left talking heads is essentially "it doesn't really mean that". If the radicals so alienate the more moderate democrats that they are all forced to become republicans, these looney toons will not have enough numbers to get the people they want into office without curbing their insane shit. The main power they wield is through the mob tactics they have been using for years. They are slandering and libeling opponents and scoring convictions in the court of public opinion, causing what amounts to extra-judicial punishment for crimes that are not actually crimes under the law. THAT is what makes the radicals actually dangerous (along with the unaddressed violent shit, which I think could easily be solved if state/local governments would use their police to deal with it).
    No disrespect intended, but this is EXACTLY the 70's all over again with respect to the dems, post the 68 convention in Chicago. It pains me to say this, given what I think of the Chicago police, but back when those guys had the will and the leadership to put down a riot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    This probably merits clarification.
    Shit, I missed that ALLEGED part. No doubt from the pain in my strained trap today. Fuzzed over some cognitive functions.

    But ALLEGED!?

    Dude. You just outed yourself. Mel Gibson needs a new best friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Jackson View Post
    I know you are speaking generally here
    One of the things I most appreciate about Europeans (broadly speaking, I know These Isles aren't part of continental Europe) is that they are very generous readers. (Of course, I'm also speaking generally in this instance as well!). Its a pity Americans never really developed this capacity and insist on reading every word as being presented as Fundamental Truth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Jackson View Post
    It should also be noted that Israel's Law of Return is a foundation stone of Zionism itself, and its mission to bring back the Jewish diaspora to Israel - not just any nation, but an entire religion's spiritual homeland and according to the religion's eschatology the future seat of global governance after an end times prophecy has been realised.

    The religious significance of their Law of Return should not be downplayed, and is highlighted by the fact that "Jews who have converted to another religion are not eligible to immigrate under the Law of Return, even though are still Jews according to halakha".

    Taken from: Law of Return - Wikipedia

    Given Israel's history, their specific Law of Return is uniquely positioned in terms of its ethnic, religious and national significance. None of the other countries' Laws of Return you mentioned have quite the same characteristics. To qualify my own view, this doesn't mean, therefore, that all Jewish people should be viewed with suspicion, or are planning a hit-and-run. I feel the need to state that considering the amount of paranoia.
    This is a good point. In defense of Israel's uniqueness in this regard, how else would they define Judaism in the context of a country that never before existed? To draw from the example of another stateless group, ethnic membership is one of the primary difficulties the Gypsies (Roma) have had in getting any sort of national recognition. There's a very good book on the subject of the dual Ethnic/Religious identity of the Jews called The Invention of the Jewish People that problematizes this duality brilliantly.


    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Jackson View Post
    Egypt–Israel barrier - Wikipedia

    TLDR: "The Egypt–Israel barrier (or Egypt–Israel border fence; Project name: Hourglass, Hebrew: שְׁעוֹן הַחוֹל, Sha'on HaḤol, lit. “sand clock”) refers to a border barrier built by Israel along its border with Egypt. It was originally an attempt to curb the influx of illegal migrants from African countries. Construction was approved on 12 January 2010...The final section of the fence was completed in December 2013.

    A number of countries, including the United States and India, have sent delegations to Israel to study border security and the various technologies used by the IDF to secure Israel's borders, including the Israel–Egypt border. Some of these countries may implement these technologies as part of their own border fences.

    About 245 kilometres (152 mi) long, the fence from Rafah to Eilat took three years to construct, at an estimated cost of NIS1.6 billion ($450 million), making it one of the largest projects in Israel's history.

    The barrier was originally planned in response to high levels of illegal migrants who successfully entered Israel across the border, mainly smuggled by Bedouin traffickers, from Eritrea and Sudan. Tens of thousands of people try to cross from Egypt's Sinai peninsula into Israel every year, predominantly economic migrants...

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu stated that the barrier is meant to "secure Israel's Jewish and democratic character....

    While 9,570 citizens of various African countries entered Israel illegally in the first half of 2012, only 34 did the same in the first six months of 2013, after construction of the main section of the barrier was completed.After the entire fence was completed, the number of migrant crossings had dropped to 16 in 2016"
    Well done! I learned something new. I must admit, I'd never heard of this fence before. It's easy to forget that Israel and Egypt actually do share a terrestrial border, considering most of it is water.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Jackson View Post
    I appreciate the measured tone, my view isn't based on ignorance, either. I have a nationalist viewpoint, and I am in complete admiration of what Zionism has been able to accomplish as a Jewish nationalist movement, I am enjoying reading and learning about it, etc. but any criticism of Zionism or Israel should not automatically be defined as hate-speech.
    Incidentally, I agree completely. My favorite critic of Israel is Noam Chomsky, fwiw.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ayrsson View Post
    Ah yes, there it is, the age-old lie, popularised by the Frankfurt School and particularly in the book The Authoritarian Personality that Europeans have some kind of inherent pathological hatred of jews for no apparent reason. I think the 1920s put the bullet in the skull of that piece of nonsense. We Europeans built civilisation on a foundation of conscientiousness.


    No, it was a preaching moment. Anti-semitism is not endemic in Europe. More lies. The vast majority of 'anti-semitism' in Europe comes from it's imported Muslim population. This is well established. Since 1942 Europeans have endured enough to philosemitism (from youngest school child to the oldest adult slumped in front of their television) to make anti-semitism an almost completely unheard of thing amongst Europe's native population (excluding Poland, Ukraine and Russia perhaps).
    You are either woefully ignorant or a dedicated racist ideologue. Makes me wonder if the homologue between your handle and Aryan is intentional. The Spanish Inquisition, the Italian Ghettos, the Pogroms, the Guild ban, the Dreyfuss affair, and--oh, right--that whole Nazi bit, just to name a few of Europe's greatest hits from the anti semitic playlist, are hardly "no apparent reason" to anyone who doesn't fit one of the two aforementioned categories.

    The Authoritarian Personality was written in 1950, so clearly the 1920s had zero effect on that argument.

    Muslims and Jews got along famously well before the creation of the state of Israel in 1947 (one might speculate that this is precisely because they had a shared antagonist in European Christianity) and anti semitism was clearly alive and well in Europe long (and shortly) before then, so the suggestion that Muslims have anything at all to do the roots of antisemitism in Europe is patently absurd (and anti-muslim). Ferdinand and Isabella, after all, not the Moors, established the Inquisition.

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