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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Harlin View Post
    It would be entertaining to see someone go around vaping (or smoking) and blowing it out their mask in public places that forbid vaping. That way when they get accosted they can respond that the mask is surely filtering out all the bad things in the vapor along with the coronavirus, no?
    Vaping liquid contains vegetable glycerin, do buy P95 instead of N95 masks. Just to be safe.

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    This is also lovely:

    "Most Victorians are doing the right thing, no question," said Victoria's Premier Daniel Andrews. "But we have this continual minority of people who are knowingly - not by mistake, but are knowingly - doing the wrong thing and putting people's lives at risk by doing so."

    Random checks by police on 3,000 infected people had found more than 800 were not home isolating, as they were supposed to be.

    On Tuesday, the state government increased fines for repeated lockdown breaches from A$1,652 (£900; $1,200) to A$5,000.
    So the right thing to do is fine your citizens ~$4000 for behavior you deem to be deadly, although your citizens can still do the fucking arithmetic necessary to see that this is bullshit? I can't think of a better way to dig a hole you can't get out of. And so much for the "consent of the governed" bullshit. It seems as though this should be some kind of turning point for Victoria.

    Meanwhile, here in the Great State of Texas the propaganda machine churns out their daily gibberish:

    Doctors warn people without fevers may still have COVID-19 – Nexstar Media Wire

    Let me explain: Just because you're not sick doesn't actually mean that your not sick, because this disease is so deadly that it can kill you without your actually being sick. You may not have a fever, or a cough, or anything that would indicate to you that you're sick, or even have been sick, because the disease is so deadly that it doesn't always make you sick -- sometimes you just die without being sick, and we all know people this has happened to. So the best thing to do is to just trust us to tell you if you're actually sick or not. In the meantime, wear your mask. Because we said so.

    And this is all taking place against the backdrop of hysteria manufactured by the continued reliance on an absolutely meaningless statistic that nobody has the courage or sense to question.

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    I think we now understand the "how", and we have pretty good theories regarding the "why".
    Shouldn't we now focus on the "who" so that we can point a military at them and tell them to stop it?

    Or are we still pretending this isn't a worldwide coordinated series of events? This level of lockstep coordination requires a head, which means you can chop it off.

    Left / Right, skin color, Dem/Repub, gender, country/city, culture wars...it's all to distract us from the "who". The beast is visible now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    This is also lovely:



    So the right thing to do is fine your citizens ~$4000 for behavior you deem to be deadly, although your citizens can still do the fucking arithmetic necessary to see that this is bullshit? I can't think of a better way to dig a hole you can't get out of. And so much for the "consent of the governed" bullshit. It seems as though this should be some kind of turning point for Victoria.

    Meanwhile, here in the Great State of Texas the propaganda machine churns out their daily gibberish:

    Doctors warn people without fevers may still have COVID-19 – Nexstar Media Wire

    Let me explain: Just because you're not sick doesn't actually mean that your not sick, because this disease is so deadly that it can kill you without your actually being sick. You may not have a fever, or a cough, or anything that would indicate to you that you're sick, or even have been sick, because the disease is so deadly that it doesn't always make you sick -- sometimes you just die without being sick, and we all know people this has happened to. So the best thing to do is to just trust us to tell you if you're actually sick or not. In the meantime, wear your mask. Because we said so.

    And this is all taking place against the backdrop of hysteria manufactured by the continued reliance on an absolutely meaningless statistic that nobody has the courage or sense to question.
    The way this idiocy is being reported, it's beginning to seem like it's approaching the status of a bloody religion. Good vs Evil; Believers vs non-Believers; Conformists vs Counter-revolutionaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yngvi View Post



    Capitalism is not a form of governance; It is just what happens when individuals are allowed to trade and interact freely according to their own will and desire.
    Capitalism is a social system based on individual rights, but it does require a Government to secure those rights. Without Government you have anarchy. Anarchy is antithetical to capitalism, so in effect, a capitalist Government is required as part of the capitalist social system, but it isn’t the creator of capitalism, it’s its protector.

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    Haghstull will be along shortly to tell you that you're wrong. He won't explain why, he will merely demonstrate his vocabulary. Here he goes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yngvi View Post
    You seem literate enough. If you can hardly find the words to express your thoughts, maybe you should reconsider your ideas.
    A constitutional republic is not a democracy. Greek Idiots - Democracy and Voting - Myth vs Fact
    Literacy is not the issue with him. Like many of his ilk, he wants to make up his own personal meanings for words. Waste of time talking to him. He doesn't even believe what he types. He's just bored staying in at home and is looking for ants to fry with a magnifying glass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post

    Let me explain: Just because you're not sick doesn't actually mean that your not sick, because this disease is so deadly that it can kill you without your actually being sick. You may not have a fever, or a cough, or anything that would indicate to you that you're sick, or even have been sick, because the disease is so deadly that it doesn't always make you sick -- sometimes you just die without being sick, and we all know people this has happened to. So the best thing to do is to just trust us to tell you if you're actually sick or not. In the meantime, wear your mask. Because we said so.
    Reads like a bad Abbot and Costello episode, who's on first, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitsuma View Post
    I think we now understand the "how", and we have pretty good theories regarding the "why".
    Shouldn't we now focus on the "who" so that we can point a military at them and tell them to stop it?

    Or are we still pretending this isn't a worldwide coordinated series of events? This level of lockstep coordination requires a head, which means you can chop it off.

    Left / Right, skin color, Dem/Repub, gender, country/city, culture wars...it's all to distract us from the "who". The beast is visible now.
    Hello, new member here, and hope I'm not imposing on this conversation. I really like Mark's views, especially as one who just got off quarantine a week ago after testing positive but asymptomatic. Kitsuma, I agree with most of what you wrote, but as a retired vet, and as a Baptist, I have to pose the following question to your comment. Are you sure pointing a military at the "who" isn't exactly what the beast wants us to do?

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