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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiva Kaul View Post
    The kind of physical realities which elude very serious data scientists in news media:

    Remember this when California resolves its boondoggles and reports a false peak.
    Another classic case of (willful?) ignorance.

    Conflating the timestamp of a message with the data’s timestamp in the message.

    A common concern when processing telemetry.

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    Compulsory vaccination for everyone is the only way to defeat COVID-19

    Mandating vaccines, you don't think they will come after firearms...well have I have some ocean front property in Arizona to sell you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdcuth View Post
    Obviously the gold standard for deciding how deadly it is is the infection mortality rate -- in early stages the infection fatality rate was obviously poorly extrapolated from the case fatality rate because testing was sparse and people were getting COVID-19 without thinking they had it (vague tiredness, taste loss etc).
    The best statistic is the one that can be measured most accurately - excess mortality. In the UK, around 1 in 1000 adults have died in the pandemic, who would otherwise been have expected to survive. All this infection/case fatality rate stuff is basically nonsense at this point, because we don't know either the numerator or the denominator with any precision.

    Understanding excess mortality: comparing COVID-19’s impact in the UK to other European countries | The Health Foundation

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    Fear -- blind, primitive fear -- is the product here. This is a nice piece that summarizes what we as a society are doing now: The Myth That Lockdowns Stop Pandemics | RealClearPolitics

    From the beginning of time, humans have used mythology to make sense of a chaotic natural world. Sir G.L. Gomme dubbed myths “the science of a pre-scientific age.” Folklore provided pre-scientific people a comforting sense of control over nature. To address dry spells, they deployed rain dances. Sunless stretches hindering crops prompted offerings to Helios. Then, our ancestors sat back and waited. The rains always came. The sun always reappeared, validating their “wisdom,” the illusion of control reinforced.

    Thanks to science, we know this was pure superstition. Though the same outcomes would have occurred had the tribe taken no action, the tribe leader would still have received credit or blame from his constituents.
    We are faced with a virus with a 997-out-of-1,000 survival rate. We have vanquished fiercer adversaries. We can rid ourselves of this plague less painfully by remembering one simple truth: neither we, nor our politicians, have control over death.
    And here we are, dancing around in our masks, measuring the magical 6 feet, praying to the god Fauci for absolution and a Vaccine. We are primitive tribesmen. It is embarrassing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JordanNewell View Post
    The best statistic is the one that can be measured most accurately - excess mortality. In the UK, around 1 in 1000 adults have died in the pandemic, who would otherwise been have expected to survive. All this infection/case fatality rate stuff is basically nonsense at this point, because we don't know either the numerator or the denominator with any precision.

    Understanding excess mortality: comparing COVID-19’s impact in the UK to other European countries | The Health Foundation
    Good article! Interesting that for ages 0-14 yrs olds, they statistically had a reduction in mortality during the period of Covid pandemic. Someone one should check that I’m interpreting that correctly, but statistical anomalies for small numbers are not uncommon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3rdcoast_slope View Post
    Compulsory vaccination for everyone is the only way to defeat COVID-19

    Mandating vaccines, you don't think they will come after firearms...well have I have some ocean front property in Arizona to sell you.
    Doubling-down! Anti-vaxing draft-dodgers!

    It’s sloppy that the articles don’t have an obvious timestamp.

    I thought the latest news from Sweden was vindicating.

    You might be right about the guns if the on-stage antics and zealousness of Biden and Beta are any indication. Beta as Gun-Czar.

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    I pretty sure he's going to retire off of Covid based material...

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    So, a midmajor football conference has cancelled their football season. This is more about money than safety, but it ultimately comes back to covid19 fears. The reporter is legit in the college football world...

    https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/s...518589440?s=19

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    You know the reason why you haven't heard of this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWlup40Ty9I

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpalios View Post
    So, a midmajor football conference has cancelled their football season. This is more about money than safety, but it ultimately comes back to covid19 fears. The reporter is legit in the college football world...

    https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/s...518589440?s=19
    Sometimes simply watching an earnest attempt at suicide can be instructive. As an example of what NOT to do, of nothing else.

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