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    Quote Originally Posted by mpalios View Post
    Yvngi, I don't care about the university failing or not....I'm a selfish SOB, I just want college football to be played! And if not played, for a legit reason...
    Don't worry, it will be back, but with rainbow-colour jerseys, political teachings at halftime and reparations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark E. Hurling View Post
    Good memories you say?
    ...Lots of memories. Not, as you say, good ones though.
    I don't hear that often enough.
    At least you didn't pay $100,000+ for those memories and a useless degree in a saturated job market.

    Quote Originally Posted by Haghstull View Post
    Oh yes, the globalists are hell-bent on preserving large, state-owned enterprises. Robust nation-states are, after all, the key to bringing about the borderless globalist utopia
    But, that's just it; the globalists actually strongly support the model of socialism we currently have in the U.S.. We may be facing an unavoidable choice between Communism, Clown World Global Socialism, National Socialism or a return to monarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Today's COVID-19 fear porn, quite an assortment today:

    55% of coronavirus patients still have neurological problems three months later: study - MarketWatch

    At the bottom:


    Coronavirus linked to stroke in otherwise healthy young people | EurekAlert! Science News



    A reminder: COVID-19 Provisional Counts - Weekly Updates by Select Demographic and Geographic Characteristics It's over, L&Gs. Done. All except the masks, the distrust, the ruined economy, and a more powerful government.


    Dr. Osterholm: Americans will be living with the coronavirus for decades - MarketWatch

    This guy wants Fauci's job so bad that if Tony shows up dead, this guy better damn well have an alibi.


    Coronavirus update: Global case tally climbs above 19 million; U.S. death toll moves above 160,000 after 11 straight days with 1,000-plus fatalities - MarketWatch



    Another reminder: the population of the earth is 7.8 billion. That's 7,800,000,000. So, 0.00916% of the population has died of the deadly COVID-19 Pandemic so far in 2020. In 2019, 58.4 million people died, which means that even if you assume that all COVID-19 deaths were excess deaths -- a silly assumption, but okay, and given what we know about COVID death coding, an even sillier assumption -- using 2019's deaths as a starting place we get a death count this year of at least 59.11 million. Lets call it 60 million just to be "safe," and lets say that the deadly COVID-19 pandemic will kill another 100,000 people, for a total of 815,000 -- a preposterous assumption since it's over, but what the hell. This means that the deadly COVID-19 Pandemic will have killed 0.01045% of the earth's population -- 1.35% of the total number of deaths on earth. But the general public is completely innumerate, and 815,000 is a big number, so the propaganda works pretty well, the masks stay on, small businesses die, the Crown Jewel of Civilization NYC is changed forever, society is damaged incalculably, and power devolves to the biggest fools in this entire fucked-up scenario.

    Not one single thing in this entire response to this virus has been done correctly. Not one. But the momentum is overwhelming, and we are fucked.
    I was watching the movie with my wife about the famine in Ukraine under Stalin. There’s a scene where a worn, ragged horse; led by a worn ragged man, is pulling a wagon through the village collecting the dead bodies. I paused the movie and pointed at the screen and told my wife, “This is why I am pissed about the Covid 19 lockdown. This is what we were promised. This is not happening, but everyone is acting as if this is happening.”

    I am daily scratching my head wondering why the hell everyone is so terrified. My previous post about developing manic depression was mostly kidding but there is some truth to that. I constantly vacillate between laughing at our collective stupidity and being horrified by our collective stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Harlin View Post
    I constantly vacillate between laughing at our collective stupidity and being horrified by our collective stupidity.
    Same here, Brian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Not one single thing in this entire response to this virus has been done correctly. Not one. But the momentum is overwhelming, and we are fucked.
    Which of these restrictions do you all think will stick with us long-term?

    You may recall that before 9/11 non-passengers could walk all the way up to the plane's gate!
    Also, pre-9/11 presumably communications were chosen to be monitored based on profiling, as opposed to the sweeping fishnet of the Patriot Act.
    In Russia, after Beslan in '04 most Kindergartens and schools (in Moscow, at least) were surrounded with locked fences and stationed with security guards to harass parents.
    In Germany, after those terrorist truck attacks I suppose the ugly concrete barriers are a permanent thing....
    etc.

    I cannot possibly foresee "vaccine passports" as a future requirement, but then again how many of the above and other "protections" after terrorist attacks could we have thought would be permanent? At this point I think it's more important to focus on forestalling future, permanent intrusions on our liberty which will be euphemised as Covid protections, than to get frustrated over the current authoritarianism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yngvi View Post
    But, that's just it; the globalists actually strongly support the model of socialism we currently have in the U.S.. We may be facing an unavoidable choice between Communism, Clown World Global Socialism, National Socialism or a return to monarchy.
    Under monarchies didn't the people at least get walls and border protection for the taxes extorted from them?

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    Well, it finally happened. After so much of the initial hysteria looked to have settled down too.

    Today was deadlifts at the Southern Illinois University Rec Center. I forgot my chalk and saw this guy bench pressing with a small zip bag on the floor by him. His flowing gray locks were pulled into a shoulder blade length pony tail and he looked to be in his 50's. It seemed unlikely he'd have any chalk, but I approached him from a distance and asked him if he had any chalk I could borrow. Nope.

    So OK, thanks, and off to deadlift. I managed all my singles without chalk happily. He kept watching me, off and on, but then I'm used to that. No one expects to see a geezer deadlifting 325 for singles, especially in the Rec.

    Next up was dips. At that point Mr. Ponytail was using the cable crossover in the general proximity of the dip bars. Since I hardly ever want to come between someone and their adoration of themselves in the mirror, I crossed over behind him to get the dip belt. I made the critical error of crossing in front of him with it, since it looked like he was completing his last reps. As I chained up a 45 plate to the belt, he called out, "You need to keep your distance from me!"

    I was pretty surprised by that and said "Hey, I'm at least 6 feet from you." He went on at length about me crowding him and I needed to keep back. He moved toward me a step or so during his tirade. I stepped back and told him I was 9 feet from him. I moved to one side and paced off the distance. He didn't like that either, and said I wasn't following the rules. Since he was masked up from his collarbones to the bridge of his nose in one of those turtleneck looking gaiters, I figured he must be referring to my not wearing a mask.

    The Rec does not require a mask during exercise. I informed him of that rule and said that since my heart rate was still pounding along at 130 bpm from the deadlifts, I was not about to have one on with any attendant CO2 buildup.

    He said he was going to talk to a manager. "Good idea, you weasly tattletale. Let's both go, I want to complain about your aggressive attitude!" The kids working the desk started laughing when Mr. Ponytail came up to whine. I told them he wasn't joking and neither was I. After listening to him lie about how I started yelling at him and crowding him, I told the kids my name and where I'd be doing dips. "You can listen to him tattle while I keep lifting."

    As I was finishing my dips one of the young desk ladies asked me for my side of the story, which I related. She said not to worry, but she had to write a report because of his complaint. No problem. Contact me if you need me later.

    I finally got confronted by a mask nazi. What a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas Laureys View Post
    Which of these restrictions do you all think will stick with us long-term?
    I think the mask thing stays a while. Fine with me, makes it easy to decide who to talk to.

    I cannot possibly foresee "vaccine passports" as a future requirement, but then again how many of the above and other "protections" after terrorist attacks could we have thought would be permanent?
    The vaccine card has already been discussed, and I assure you it will be pursued.

    At this point I think it's more important to focus on forestalling future, permanent intrusions on our liberty which will be euphemised as Covid protections, than to get frustrated over the current authoritarianism.
    Where do you think the future intrusions will come from, if not from the present ones?

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    My 93 year old grandfather is in a nursing home in Florida. He had an infection from his catheter and was also having problems breathing.

    They sent him to the COVID unit where he tested negative. They found he has pneumonia instead. Then they moved him out of the COVID ward.

    Now we’re being told he may have been exposed in the ward....

    I have no words.

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    You're not supposed to have words, Frank. You're supposed to shut up, like everybody else has done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark E. Hurling View Post
    Good memories you say?

    Oh yeah. Discovering activist anti-war professors haranguing lecture classes about the Big Bad Nam.

    Lots of memories. Not, as you say, good ones though.
    UGH. Why couldn't those whiny proto-millenials just shut up about that war? How could anyone unironically be effete enough to object to a war that cost 58,000 U.S. lives (not to mention millions of vietnamese, the vast majority of which literally never even dreamed of doing harm to the United States) in exchange for nominal control over strategically valueless territory? I hope you told 'em off good, Hurling, and I hope you let them know that the REAL heroes were the virtuous, patriotic american war profiteers in the boardrooms at Lockheed and Mcdonald Douglas.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yngvi View Post
    But, that's just it; the globalists actually strongly support the model of socialism we currently have in the U.S.. We may be facing an unavoidable choice between Communism, Clown World Global Socialism, National Socialism or a return to monarchy.
    Nope. A political milieu where socialized losses and privatized gains is the norm is a natural consequence of capitalism, not socialism. Socialism is about redistribution of wealth downward, not upward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haghstull View Post
    Socialism is about redistribution of wealth downward, not upward.
    It's the whole definitions thing again. Why should wealth be RE-distributed at all, and by whom? And why downward? I know, I KNOW -- because you want some, and it's easier if you get somebody else's!!!

    You people are such tiresome parasites. I wish there was the equivalent of Ivermectin for socialists.

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