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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Now that I've beaten it out of you, I only really disagree with #1. "Free Health Care" is not free and it must be rationed, as must everything else that is "Free." You can't get your knee replaced on your own schedule if it's being "given" to you. But socialists such as yourself want free shit so badly that you are willing to tell your mother she has to wait on a hip "for the greater good of the People." And a Universal Basic Income is the same as giving everybody 10 points at the start of the racquetball game. Neither Friedman nor Hayek would endorse this shit for the reasons you want them.

    #2 is fine, a good idea. #3 is fine, because colleges and universities are breeding grounds for socialist vermin such as yourself, and because they currently lack the ability to perform their function as educational institutions due to the aforementioned socialist vermin such as yourself. I have written and been interviewed about state licensure many times, and it actually disappoints me that a socialist parasite such as yourself agrees with me on these two points.

    #4 is interesting. Can we add the entire Obama Administration to this list? Surely even you agree that what was done to Libya merits at least somebody spending the night in jail? And let's add the Bush II administration, if for no other reason than for being stupid enough to think that the TSA was the solution to a problem of any kind.
    Yes, Rip, the problem of having to delay care because the impoverished serfs are now waiting in the same line as you is a terrible impediment to state-run healthcare systems. This is why in Britain there is a powerful movement to dispense with their inefficient and reviled healthcare system and replace it with our much-loved private health insurance bureacracy, probably borne of the fact that Britons spend much more on health products and greedy doctor salaries in exchange for worse care outcomes than we get here.

    ... oh, wait... the exact opposite of every single claim in that above paragraph is true why do you think that is, Rippletoad?

    in all seriousness, though, all I want is for the ambulance that comes to your house when you dial 911 to be funded the same way as the fire truck that comes to your house when you dial 911. Everyone should give a % of what they're worth to make sure that even the poorest among us can be cared for. Do you think the fire department should be privatized? The police department? Why? Why is the concept of a community that looks out for itself seem so bubonic to you?

    You are absolutely wrong that Hayek and Friedman have different reasons for endorsing UBI than I do. They thought it would solve the problem of poverty without interfering in markets. I agree with them. End of story.

    And yes, we should absolutely punish Obama for his crimes. We should punish EVERYONE for breaking the law, because we are not blue-haired antifa "soldiers" or who believe that the rule of law is less important than their personal opinions about truth and justice. Seriously, you think we like Obama ???? have you ever even met a socialist?

    And what, exactly, do you believe, Rip? What specific policies do you think should be implemented to get us out of this mess, and why?

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    Just noticed something:

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Kinda like toilet paper.

    Here's a great example of local authoritarian overreach, from Ft. Worth TX:

    http://www.tarrantcounty.com/content..._Amendment.pdf

    Therefore #3: This Declaration authorizes the County to commandeer or use any private property as provided by law.

    Signed by County Judge B. Glen Whitley (R).
    This has a bearing on the Tarrant County order, which I missed at the time:

    The Constitution’s ignored stepchild: the Third Amendment | The Legal Examiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haghstull View Post
    And what, exactly, do you believe, Rip? What specific policies do you think should be implemented to get us out of this mess, and why?
    Everybody else already knows what I believe needs to happen, and socialist parasites do not command my time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haghstull View Post
    in all seriousness, though, all I want is for the ambulance that comes to your house when you dial 911 to be funded the same way as the fire truck that comes to your house when you dial 911. Everyone should give a % of what they're worth to make sure that even the poorest among us can be cared for. ?
    Under the current US system the ambulance comes when you call 911, independent of ability to pay. Ultimately the poor pay nothing and other victims pay a lot or little depending.

    Do you advocate the poor (victim) pays more? Or that someone else pays more on behalf of the victim? Not clear from your post.

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    He doesn't know anything about anybody "paying" for anything, Barry. He just repeats socialist bullshit.

    And I seem to remember someone having said that NYC was going to be Just Fine a while back.

    Retail Chains Abandon Manhattan: ‘It’s Unsustainable’ - The New York Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    And a Universal Basic Income is the same as giving everybody 10 points at the start of the racquetball game.
    ... after the other players have all worked their asses off to score as many points as possible. Spending the money to buy the best equipment, investing hours in practicing and coached sessions, doing strength training outside of practicing. Then giving it their all during the game, running across the court, swinging like maniacs, taking as many risks as they can to just win. Going at it again and again even when the other players have scored, and they themselves are exhausted. The game may be tied and almost over and all hope may seem lost. But they still try.

    Oh and by the way, those people don't get the extra 10 points at the start. It's their points that they scored that are given to the deadbeat players.

    Because privilege or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haghstull View Post
    You aren't particularly impressed, but you're still, like, a little bit impressed at least, right???

    and if you care, I think there is a difference between democratically elected representatives and those who wield power only because they were born under fortunate circumstances. You have made it clear that you do not agree with this, but there it is, that's my response.

    I beg you to consider the possibility that the "all governments are the same--evil!" schtick is at odds with the historical record.
    Holy shit, you have to be one of the stupidest educated people I've ever encountered, the only examples of these benevolent governments you can point to come from fairy tales

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Charles View Post
    Under the current US system the ambulance comes when you call 911, independent of ability to pay. Ultimately the poor pay nothing and other victims pay a lot or little depending.

    Do you advocate the poor (victim) pays more? Or that someone else pays more on behalf of the victim? Not clear from your post.
    Total sophistry. A destroyed credit score and a lifetime's worth of debt is clearly not equivalent to "nothing". I have been a fan of your posts, Barry (seriously)... which is why it is so frustrating to hear you and Rip repeat bogus Fox News talking points about how "ACTUALLY the poor ALREADY get free healthcare!!!"

    I am not advocating that anyone pay more. I am advocating that everyone pay less. Please, look at the figures on what people pay for healthcare per capita in various countries. In every case, state-run HC systems are more efficient. This is entirely uncontroversial everywhere but the U.S..

    Out of curiosity, let me ask you (Rip, Satch, Arryson, and Hurling are also welcome to furnish me with an answer to this question): if you had to persuade the UK electoral body to give up on the NHS in favor of a U.S.-style private health insurance bureacracy (and the exorbitant doctor salaries endemic thereto), how exactly would you do it? Can you name even one quantitative statistic that supports this position?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark E. Hurling View Post
    Since he was masked up from his collarbones to the bridge of his nose in one of those turtleneck looking gaiters, I figured he must be referring to my not wearing a mask.
    You mean those masks that they're now saying are worse than no mask at all?

    The high droplet count reported in the Duke study could be linked to the neck gaiter’s porous fabric breaking up bigger particles into many little ones that are more likely to hang around in the air longer, Fischer said in the video. This effect makes wearing them possibly “counterproductive,” he added.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/wellness/mask-test-duke-covid/2020/08/10/4f2bb888-db18-11ea-b205-ff838e15a9a6_story.html


    Another quote from this story I like:

    If ... you can blow through it easily, it probably is not protecting anybody.

    If you can breathe, your mask isn't working. Lol.

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