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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    I think that the people of NY got what they voted for. You want the DOJ to be the parents? The Feds should not do this for them, nor should they correct the situation in Portland, Seattle, or any other Democrat shithole. I say he stays in office until he dies, and NY gets what they voted for. It's very important that they learn from experience, which they have yet to do.
    New York is a complicated animal, geographically it's majority red. Some districts can flip. But all the superdense population districts are deeply blue. This was the results map for the last election that Cuomo won. Excise Manhattan and its surrounds and New York turns into a red or swing state.

    2018 New York gubernatorial election - Wikipedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soule View Post
    Regarding police training - I firmly believe that strength training and brazilian jiu jitsu multiple times per week should be mandatory.
    Great idea and it's been recommended on a number of police forums. The small problem is time. There aren't enough police to maintain a training program and police the community. Hell, there aren't enough police just to do the policing. Police are already working over time and multiple shifts. I've read of cities where police are working 12 hour shifts 7 days a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soule View Post
    ...Do these people live in reality?
    They are socialists and communists. They haven't ever lived in reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Jackson View Post
    He and his armed militia were protecting private property from destruction by the rioters (including a gas station). He was exercising his right to keep and bear arms, and was acting in accordance with the absolute rights of personal security, personal liberty and private property. Isn't that the whole idea behind your nation? If Americans don't loudly support this young lad, then it's all for naught.
    This kid should be elevated as a hero. He was part of a legal militia tasked with protecting private property and lives from destruction and death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Norman View Post
    This is the first time I've seen this objection raised anywhere. Which article(s) do you think would need to be amended for Unity 2020 to be constitutional?
    I raised the exact same objection. Unity 2020 is idealistic, impractical bullshit. Convention of the states and reformation of the constitution is the realistic, pragmatic version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommanderFun View Post
    New York is a complicated animal, geographically it's majority red. Some districts can flip. But all the superdense population districts are deeply blue. This was the results map for the last election that Cuomo won. Excise Manhattan and its surrounds and New York turns into a red or swing state.

    2018 New York gubernatorial election - Wikipedia
    Isn't this true of pretty much every state in the US? The only blue areas in Wisconsin are Madison and Milwaukee (Eau Claire might lean blue occasionally too). Other than that it's all red.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommanderFun View Post
    New York is a complicated animal, geographically it's majority red. Some districts can flip. But all the superdense population districts are deeply blue. This was the results map for the last election that Cuomo won. Excise Manhattan and its surrounds and New York turns into a red or swing state.

    2018 New York gubernatorial election - Wikipedia
    Same with Illinois.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark E. Hurling View Post



    Given BJJ's predisposition to take a fight to the ground, their particular approach is beyond ill-advised. Rolling around on the ground and hugging it out with a gun, taser, pepper spray, or baton on your gun belt is not a recipe for officer survival. Particularly if the bad guy has a knife somewhere.
    Maybe at your academy. At Gracie Humaita we decide where the fight goes. we train primarily for self defense, including: takedowns, standup techniques and gun and knife takeaways (from Tim Kennedy).

    In Austin they’re planning on cutting 150mill from the police budget. That money could be used to train better, more confident officers who would be more likely to grapple it out than shoot an unarmed man 7 times in the fucking back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark E. Hurling View Post
    Given BJJ's predisposition to take a fight to the ground, their particular approach is beyond ill-advised. Rolling around on the ground and hugging it out with a gun, taser, pepper spray, or baton on your gun belt is not a recipe for officer survival. Particularly if the bad guy has a knife somewhere on their person.

    There's a lot less ground play in no GI and the rounds aren't as long. They tried to make combat BJJ a thing, it could work great if slapping was broadly allowed in BJJ, a lot of bullshit would stop working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltomo View Post
    Isn't this true of pretty much every state in the US? The only blue areas in Wisconsin are Madison and Milwaukee (Eau Claire might lean blue occasionally too). Other than that it's all red.
    Yeah, I was just making the point that Cuomo is NOT popular in most areas of the state. It's just that one little deep blue tick packed full of dependents.

    Quote Originally Posted by Soule View Post
    In Austin they’re planning on cutting 150mill from the police budget. That money could be used to train better, more confident officers who would be more likely to grapple it out than shoot an unarmed man 7 times in the fucking back.
    Yep, instead you're gonna get the TSA with guns. Good job, BLM. You're making cops infinitely more dangerous to encounter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommanderFun View Post
    Yep, instead you're gonna get the TSA with guns. Good job, BLM. You're making cops infinitely more dangerous to encounter.
    That's a damn good point I hadn't heard before.

    In the meantime, professional sports has committed suicide: Brewers, Reds will not play in protest of Jacob Blake shooting

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    https://twitter.com/i/status/1299129378975158272

    And the Fucking NBA. I've never watched professional sports, but I've never before considered myself patriotic for not doing so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark E. Hurling View Post
    Right on point. This teenager was from Illinois. He intentionally placed himself in this situation with no apparent skin in the game and then killed people. Not exactly the McCloskeys.
    Illinois? So what? It doesn't matter if the patriot was from Alaska, and by "intentionally" placing himself in the situation as he did, he was intentionally being patriotic.

    A month or two ago, people here were telling us to calm down, because the violence was confined to libtard Dem zones. Now, an American patriot cannot exercise his rights, and then preserve his own life with his legally owned firearm, because... he's from another state? Did the carloads of Antifa travelling across the country get this memo, too?

    This is it. This is the logical endpoint of neo-liberalism: an America where you can watch livestreams of a race war on an affordable, state-of-the-art 8K panoramic TV, and feel like you have no "skin in the game".

    At some point you centrists, libertarians, civic-nationalists are just going to have to admit that if you're a white American, and if you ever use your firearm in defense of your own life against one of these protected people in same the way Kyle Rittenhouse did - you will be fucked over. Even if, as with Kyle, your attackers draw an illegally-held firearm on you, or try to take your rifle, or cave your skull in with a skateboard. You'll be made an example of precisely because you're a white conservative, and if you don't go to jail your entire life will be ruined forever.

    Simultaneously, at the RNC, your president will trot out a long line of "based" conservative blacks (and homosexuals, obviously) in order to argue that the Democrats are the REAL racists, and the Republican Party will share footage of your country going to shit with the caption "This is Biden's America".

    Alongside the clear message from the RNC that the party is rehabilitating the Trump brand with the goal of "ending racism" - these are also Trump's own words from the convention:
    "If the Democrat Party wants to stand with anarchists, agitators, rioters, looters, and flag burners, that is up to them... The Republican Party will remain the voice of the patriotic heroes who keep America safe and salute the American flag"

    BULL SHIT. The Republican Party had a chance to condemn these people back in 2016 in Charlottesville, if you remember. When James Fields' car was attacked by the Antifa crowd, before he floored it, and hit and killed a woman, in order to protect his life. That guy rots in jail cell to this day, yet Trump STILL condemns the boogeyman of the "white nationalists" and "white supremacists" while exempting BLM and Antifa from any blame.

    This black pandering isn't just to get votes, it is policy now. I am so frustrated with white people and their fantasies about black conservatives. Sharing clips of Diamond and Silk isn't going to save you when the time comes.

    In short, politically, racially motivated violence on white people is clearly fine (this is from outside the White House last night): https://twitter.com/justin_hart/stat...70317366038528

    Black people arming themselves, and marching around in huge groups, is fine. Black people collectivizing in order to smash, loot and burn private property? Fine.

    Black, drug-overdosing, violent felons who get killed by police? Heroes.

    White people arming themselves to protect their lives and property from Antifa rioters or Black Lives Matter chimp-outs? "Racists". "White supremacists". "Murderers" Pathologized and vilified.

    This is all happening under a Trump presidency, yet somehow the Republicans want you to believe the following scene is from "Joe Biden's Washington": https://twitter.com/KunkleFredrick/s...44285079838720

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