You believe that with the combination of prior research, government prodding and financial incentives, they can create an effective vaccine quickly and safely.
Rather than repeat myself on the topic, I will simply say I still believe the probability of a quickly developed, safe, effective vaccine is low. We also would have to define "quickly" at this point; it has been ~9 months so far. The 1968 vaccine took only 4 months to develop and distribute 9 million doses.
What strain do you think the "original strain" was for the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic? What is the current descendent of that deadly strain that has become endemic?
Does a virus actually tend to mutate to become less deadly or do organisms tend to develop an immunogenetic tolerance, which allows them to live alongside the virus?
We are in agreement the the probability of a more deadly strain developing is low. My argument is that the probability is much higher than in a scenario without lockdowns and semi-isolated populations.
Stef, I'm not complaining about the resistance, such as it is. I'm merely sharing my observations about the changes in this board over the past 10 years. If you think that this is as interesting and diverse as a place as it was 6 or 8 years ago, with people like tertius and spar and aurelius and the like, then more power to you. Spare me the melodramatic bullshit, though, ok?
I never said impose a national policy. How about just telling the truth, moving quickly when this thing entered our country instead of saying that it will disappear like a miracle, creating a comprehensive plan for testing and tracing that all states could utilize as they pleased, and making sure states don't bid against each other for supplies? There are other things they could have done, I'm sure, if we knew what they knew. Also, I said I think Sweden got it mostly right, did I not? As you've been fond of saying, however, we don't have enough data to be making firm judgments yet, so I suppose we'll wait and see. But if you think Sweden's plan was just to leave everybody alone, I think you should read more.
California Gov. Newsom's Thanksgiving Rules Explained as Severe Restrictions Put in Place
All gatherings must include no more than three households, including hosts and guests, and must be held outdoors, lasting for two hours or less.
So, if you have three kids grown and married or it's cold, fuck you.
Attendees may go inside to use restrooms
Oh. Wow. Thanks. I appreciate the government allowing us to use our own bathrooms.
As much as possible, all food and drink should be served in disposable containers, while self-serve communal containers and other shared items should not be used at the gathering.
I don't even know where to start with that one. How do you even serve a turkey that way?
I'm sorry but my tolerance for this kind of shit is growing ever smaller. At this point we'd need Ebola-like numbers to justify this shit.
Been gone a while. I died from the COVID, but I am feeling better now.
Actually read the article. What in the world? This is real?
How would the sanitizing of my indoor plumbing be monitored by the governor, I wonder?
They suggest we whisper and BY GODS don't play your wind instrument....you will all die like me.
Silly. And California will go right along with it, at least it seems so.
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Restrooms, where the virus is actually spread.
https://www.cebm.net/wp-content/uplo...7/toilet-1.png
SARS-CoV-2 and the Role of Orofecal Transmission: Evidence Brief - CEBM
I love you Stef, I've on many accounts been gaslighted about my thinking. Some have said, " you should learn to think laterally, you're too rigid." apparently theres a book about thinking laterally? I've been told, " I could try to explain it to you but you just wouldn't understand."
I seem to run into the end of reason sometimes. One of the only comforts i take in is martin luther, when he affectively stood up to the whole mass of humanity in denying the traditions of man.
"I cannot and will not recant anything, for to go against conscience is neither right nor safe. Here I stand, I can do no other. God help me. Amen."
– Martin Luther, in front of his inquisitors at the Diet of Worms.