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    Quote Originally Posted by Yngvi View Post
    We have seen a death rate of ~7% (1/15) for high risk populations from the high dose cohord in the Phase II Moderna vaccine trial. That is higher than the death rate from the virus.
    Philadelphia Priest Dies After Participating In Moderna COVID Vaccine Trial | Zero Hedge

    80% of all participants developed systemic side effects after the 2nd does in Moderna's phase I and II trials.
    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2022483

    These are extremely concerning results that would typically shut down a trial completely or result in a lengthy delay and reevaluation of the trail.




    We do not know that.
    That is an untested hypothesis.
    This is why we are supposed to have long-term trials before a vaccine (especially a new type of vaccine) is ever approved.

    Don't forget your Hippocratic Oath: First, do no harm.
    It's my understanding that Moderna is indemnified from liability for injuries for this thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommanderFun View Post
    Were you?
    Not at all. A wild goose chase that, as Rip says, made a lot of lawyers a lot of taxpayer money. I never thought Trump was smart enough or competent enough to pull off something requiring that level (or any level, really) of sophisticated planning and secrecy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satch12879 View Post
    And who signs up to troll debate politics on a weight lifting message board anyway?
    You can ask that with a straight face after the last 858 pages?

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    More on Trump's supposedly incoming military intervention following the election fraud: Situation Update – Dec. 4th – Offensive cyber warfare mechanisms activated, election outcome now bending toward national defense scenario – NaturalNews.com
    Situation Update – Dec. 4th – Offensive cyber warfare mechanisms activated, election outcome now bending toward national defense scenario

    (Natural News) Today’s Situation Update (for Dec. 4th) has been published and is linked below. Note that thanks to the rapidly unfolding post-election situation in America, we will be publishing updates on both Saturday and Sunday, so check back for those.
    This particular update discusses some of the “smoking gun” video evidence of vote fraud in Georgia, as well as the “20 binders” of fraud evidence from Nevada. But the real discussion in this update concerns the “national security option” which increasingly appears to be the most likely outcome stemming from Election Day treason and cyber warfare carried out by Democrats, globalists and the CIA.
    Not only do we know that President Trump invoked language from his 2018 Executive Order in his historic Dec. 2nd speech — thereby providing the full public justification for Secretary of Defense Chris Miller to start issuing all necessary orders — we also know that many other critical documents and secret orders were put in place between 2018 and the 2020 election:

    • Trump’s 2018 Executive Order states that persons or organizations are guilty of foreign interference (acts of war) against the United States if they, “have directly or indirectly engaged in, sponsored, concealed, or otherwise been complicit in foreign interference in a United States election.” This includes, “to have materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, or technological support for, or goods or services to or in support of, any activity” related to the election theft.
    • 10 USC, Section 394. Subtitle A, Part 1, Chapter 19 describes the role of conventional military forces in dealing with cyber warfare (election theft) and specifically focuses that power in the hands of the Secretary of Defense, who is now Chris Miller: “The Secretary of Defense shall develop, prepare, and coordinate; make ready all armed forces for purposes of; and, when appropriately authorized to do so, conduct, military cyber activities or operations in cyberspace, including clandestine military activities or operations in cyberspace, to defend the United States and its allies, including in response to malicious cyber activity carried out against the United States…”
    • We also learned that the United States Code specifically calls for these defensive operations to be conducted in secret, which is why the so-called “rendition flights” are not yet public knowledge: “…a military activity or military operation carried out in cyberspace, or associated preparatory actions, authorized by the President or the Secretary that (A) is marked by, held in, or conducted with secrecy, where the intent is that the activity or operation will not be apparent or acknowledged publicly.”
    • In addition, we became aware that President Trump announced a new doctrine of “offensive cyber operations” on Sep. 20, 2018, just eight days after signing his “foreign interference” EO. As described by The Washington Post, this new doctrine swept away Obama-era doctrines: “The strategy incorporates a new classified presidential directive that replaced one from the Obama administration… It allows the military and other agencies to undertake cyber operations intended to protect their systems and the nation’s critical networks.”
    • Then, finally, we learned that President Trump issued a new National Security Presidential Memoranda (NSPM) #13 in 2018, which covers “offensive cyber operations. He kept this directive hidden from Congress for 17 months. The exact language of this NSPM is still classified and has not been released to the public. Here’s a list of all the NSPMs, but notably, “offensive cyber operations” is a secret and is not publicly shown.
    • Trump is now poised to veto the reauthorization of the NDAA in order to force lawmakers to repeal Sec. 230. The NDAA grants special powers to the Commander-In-Chief to declare American citizens to be “enemy combatants” and to detain them without trial. But Trump doesn’t need the NDAA during times of war, which is exactly the scenario under which the 2020 election took place.
    • In addition, Trump is now working to clean up the CIA. Former director Gina Haspel has likely already been fired, and now Federal News Network is reporting that one of the top information technology officials in the DoD, the “deputy CIO” (Chief Information Officer) has been reinserted back into the CIA. His name is Peter Ranks. A DoD spokesperson describes Peter’s accomplishments: “Under his leadership, we’ve made great advances in execution of the DoD Cloud Strategy and development of the software modernization approach while supporting the entirety of the DoD workforce with remote work capabilities during the pandemic…”

    The obvious, rational realization in all this is that since 2018, Trump has put in place a cyber warfare battle plan for America, and that plan was initiated on November 3rd with the real-time trapping of treasonous actors as they tried to steal the election.
    Importantly, those who committed election theft fell right into the trap by tripping into “national security” traps which moves their prosecution out of civil or criminal courts and into military courts. This point cannot be overstated. This is how Trump achieves a flanking maneuver around corrupt judges in traditional courts.
    It also underscores why much of the activity taking place right now is not known to the public. It’s all covered under the secrecy provisions mentioned above.
    What we should all expect to see in the very near future (weeks at most) is historic assertions of military authority, followed by an acceleration of arrests of traitors, public confessions and a wave of resignations of Democrat leaders from Congress. The result will be Trump in the White House, a GOP-run Senate, a GOP-run House and a conservative SCOTUS. As a bonus, if Trump exercises his full authority to seize corporations which aided and abetted the cyber warfare attack on America, we may also see CNN, the Washington Post, Twitter, Facebook, Google and other treasonous operations seized or shut down.

    Listen to the full analysis here:
    Brighteon.com/6bbae6f0-b443-4985-9f2c-889c8c6d4ae9


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yngvi View Post
    We have seen a death rate of ~7% (1/15) for high risk populations from the high dose cohord in the Phase II Moderna vaccine trial. That is higher than the death rate from the virus.
    Philadelphia Priest Dies After Participating In Moderna COVID Vaccine Trial | Zero Hedge

    80% of all participants developed systemic side effects after the 2nd does in Moderna's phase I and II trials.
    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2022483

    These are extremely concerning results that would typically shut down a trial completely or result in a lengthy delay and reevaluation of the trail.




    We do not know that.
    That is an untested hypothesis.
    This is why we are supposed to have long-term trials before a vaccine (especially a new type of vaccine) is ever approved.

    Don't forget your Hippocratic Oath: First, do no harm.
    I’m also interested in some of the chatter that the vaccine does not prevent transmission (and this having not been tested.) I don’t necessarily think this is a non-starter and I admittedly have only seen reference to it, so I can’t speak to it with any solid opinion. But if true, it certainly matters in the bigger picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yngvi View Post
    We have seen a death rate of ~7% (1/15) for high risk populations from the high dose cohord in the Phase II Moderna vaccine trial. That is higher than the death rate from the virus.
    Philadelphia Priest Dies After Participating In Moderna COVID Vaccine Trial | Zero Hedge

    80% of all participants developed systemic side effects after the 2nd does in Moderna's phase I and II trials.
    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2022483

    These are extremely concerning results that would typically shut down a trial completely or result in a lengthy delay and reevaluation of the trail.




    We do not know that.
    That is an untested hypothesis.
    This is why we are supposed to have long-term trials before a vaccine (especially a new type of vaccine) is ever approved.

    Don't forget your Hippocratic Oath: First, do no harm.
    From the paper you linked:

    No serious adverse events were noted, and no prespecified trial halting rules were met.
    And another thing you may not have read but only read about: the Hippocratic oath doesn’t say “first, do no harm.” Also, the Monopoly guy doesn’t have a monocle. Sorry to disillusion you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhastings View Post
    The system is too big for each of us to have the kind of firsthand experience with all of these incidents that would be required to actually accurately judge their legitimacy or lack thereof. You are living in a world of innuendo and jumps of logic -- depending on what you tend to believe about these things, you are finding confirmation in the tea leaves. If we want to have a system of the size we have these days (nations, corporations, etc.) we must find a way of setting up guardrails and deciding who is trustable in affirming or disaffirming errors and wrong-doing. I would have thought that AG Barr was one such unassailable trusted figure on the Republican side of the ledger. He is saying about the election "it is over, Biden won, there was not widespread fraud that changed the outcome". Instead you all seem to be happier to trust complete yahoos like Sidney Powell and her ilk -- that is a fast train to crazy-town, my friends -- and unfortunately you seem to be bound and determined to take us all there with you.
    This dude's made so many strawmen my allergies are acting up.

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    This engineered virus foisted on the population with a rushed and miraculous vaccine that is really a disguise to sterilize the population is the plot of that Utopia series on Prime Video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhastings View Post
    You can ask that with a straight face after the last 858 pages?
    I mean, I've been here a while, pal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMueller View Post
    History repeats itself.
    Yes, Because here you are again talking completely out of your ass.

    Stupidity or malice is the only question. I suspect both.

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