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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Charles View Post
    In other words, next time someone’s hysterical about COVID, ask them to explain (and defend) why the death rate in US is 50x higher than China, a country with 5X the population.

    I think it is really that straightforward.
    It's not. They will conclude China is doing a better job of "controlling" the virus than the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldDog View Post
    At the time there was a clear delineation in the tone of news coverage based on the dates. Try this now. There are practically no search results prior to Trump's mentioning of HCQ. Google has memory holed the past.
    This is actually the one facet of big tech censorship people aren't seeing because it's more subtle. Google search results have become curated as fuck politically. We have to start using other search engines for politically hot topics, because Google is in on the agenda.

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    Now will you believe?


    The referenced paper: In Trump’s campaign to save the Republic, we haven’t seen the key supporting effort yet by retired Naval Intelligence Commander J.E. Dyer. <--- Highly Recomended

    The above may be too advanced...or "fantasy-land"...for some here. For those people, I strongly suggest you start here: This young girl understand whats going on
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    Watering holes are one of the better hunting grounds for predators; water is mother nature's bait.

    For the metaphor-resistance readers: the election was the bait. Happy Hunting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMueller View Post
    I don’t quite think we can give Rip credit for “treating me like a bitch,” whatever that means,
    You cried and whined about his response that was somewhat of a mirror of the responses I've seen you give others. If you really don't know what "that means" then that is something you should probably correct so that you unearn the nickname BitchMueller.

    Quote Originally Posted by BMueller View Post
    IÂ’m happy to attack Donald Trump on substance in addition to his personality disorder, as if those were somehow two different things.
    What "substance" do you have? What's his "personality disorder" and how did you conclude he has one? Or should I just look those up on CNN to save you from regurgitating the narrative they programmed into you?

    Quote Originally Posted by BMueller View Post
    So here is a (probably incomplete) list of everyone that is in on the conspiracy to steal the election from Trump and hand it to Biden:

    Poll workers in Philadelphia, Detroit, Milwaukee, Atlanta, Phoenix
    Democratic and Republican election officials, governors, and secretaries of state in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona, and Nevada
    Appellate and supreme court judges in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona, and Nevada
    Government officials in Germany, Venezuela, Cuba, Russia, China
    Mainstream media (including the usual folks, of course, but also now including most of Fox News and generally everyone to the left of Newsmax)
    Social media platform executives, most notably at Twitter, Facebook, and probably YouTube
    Bill Barr, and by extension, most of the important people at the Department of Justice
    Some high level members of the military
    George Soros (of course)

    It seems as though it would be incredibly difficult to pull of an organized, clandestine plan to include these many thousands of people of all political stripes, social and political classes, financial motivations, and special interests, but that appears to have been what happened. Have I missed anyone important in this list?
    If you care to stop embarrassing yourself with such posts, you should study some of these concepts. In particular, try to understand #2:

    15 Logical Fallacies You Should Know Before Getting Into a Debate | The Quad Magazine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerald Boggs View Post
    China also sent buyers out at the beginning, and bought up stocks of masks and shipped them to China
    And we let them go!

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis Reid View Post
    We have to Wal. Everybody has to do what they can to support products made elsewhere. My personal rule has become, buy Australian Made first, and buy made in anywhere but China second. It's difficult, and take time to work through, but I personally believe its worth it. Notably for this board, the 'fitness industry' seems to have taken note. If I was to open a Starting Strength style gym tomorrow, I could equip it entirely with Australian made products, from racks to barbells to plates, etc. This wouldn't have been possible just a couple of years ago.
    My point is successive Australian governments, both Labor and Liberal have allowed even pressed that public owned assets such as the Electrical Distribution networks which include generation, poles and wires, rail and port assets be sold to foreign interests some masquerading as private companies, but in fact are owned by the Chinese government, we have sold farm land, dairy companies and even in Queensland water was mined for China while we were in drought. The NSW State want to sell our water and hydro schemes because all governments both federal and state are broke. Eventually there will be nothing left to sell. The enemy is not over there, they are inside our own country, politicians pretending to care for their constituents while selling the ground beneath our feet.

    You could do as you say and equip you gym with Aussie equipment, but who would supply your electricity and gas? Probably a foreign owned energy supplier. Well at least we make something still here

    BTW how has Chairman Dan handled the Covid lock downs? I think California have taken his methods and applied them over there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satch12879 View Post
    I still hear zero reference to the election of 2000 or of what the DNC did to Bernie Sanders in 2016 and 2020 or what the GOP did to Ron Paul in Iowa and what the media did to him in 2008 and 2012 (I actually don't, because Dr. Paul is a non-person to the Cathedral)...
    I have heard some people referencing those, but so what?

    Bernie is ultimately a cuck to the DNC and THAT is why nobody cares. If the commie scumbag won't fight for himself why should the rest of us care?

    Trump is fighting. That's the difference.

    Quote Originally Posted by BMueller View Post
    So here is a (probably incomplete) list of everyone that is in on the conspiracy to steal the election from Trump and hand it to Biden:

    Poll workers in Philadelphia, Detroit, Milwaukee, Atlanta, Phoenix
    Democratic and Republican election officials, governors, and secretaries of state in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona, and Nevada
    Appellate and supreme court judges in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona, and Nevada
    Government officials in Germany, Venezuela, Cuba, Russia, China
    Mainstream media (including the usual folks, of course, but also now including most of Fox News and generally everyone to the left of Newsmax)
    Social media platform executives, most notably at Twitter, Facebook, and probably YouTube
    Bill Barr, and by extension, most of the important people at the Department of Justice
    Some high level members of the military
    George Soros (of course)

    It seems as though it would be incredibly difficult to pull of an organized, clandestine plan to include these many thousands of people of all political stripes, social and political classes, financial motivations, and special interests, but that appears to have been what happened. Have I missed anyone important in this list?
    Again demonstrating that you are a liar or a moron.

    These forces can all be against Trump without being coordinated together in their specifics efforts to harm him. You literally have you head up your ass if you cannot see that mainstream media and social media have been and are, as well as many politicians.

    Your caricature of "an organized, clandestine plan" just shows that you don't actually know, or want to admit to, a single damned thing about history. The worldwide spread of communism, done in a time of 1/10 the ability for centralized planners to communicate with the front lines of those working for the cause is enough evidence that "many thousands of people of all political stripes, social and political classes, financial motivations, and special interests" can work together towards a cause without ever having direct contact with many of their comrades.

    The spread of communism, as it actually happened, like much of history, would be absurd to you too. That might be understandable before it actually happened, but now that it, and other movements like it, have, your stance just makes you a liar or a moron.

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    ‘Everybody dies’: Musk says neither he nor his family will take Covid-19 vaccine, blasts Bill Gates as ‘knucklehead’

    ‘Everybody dies’: Musk says neither he nor his family will take Covid-19 vaccine, blasts Bill Gates as ‘knucklehead’

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilead View Post
    ‘Everybody dies’: Musk says neither he nor his family will take Covid-19 vaccine, blasts Bill Gates as ‘knucklehead’

    ‘Everybody dies’: Musk says neither he nor his family will take Covid-19 vaccine, blasts Bill Gates as ‘knucklehead’
    It's hard not to like this guy Musk.

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    This post makes an important point: when you jump past all the media bullshit, we are dealing here with a single political entity in opposition to Trump. It has never been more clear than it is right now that there is no Republican/Democrat delineation of any meaningful nature. Get the Broom - Time to Clean House in Harrisburg - There is only the Politics Party, and us, represented by Trump. They have all hated him since the day he walked down the escalator because they knew he wasn't going to play Bush/Clinton with them. There are at least 75 million pissed-off well-armed people in this country, and the tendency will be to not cooperate with this coup despite the fact that we have been so well prepared for obedience by the "pandemic" and the Media. And the corporations that have collaborated with and benefited from their bribes them will be on our minds too. There are really just two alternatives here, the Trump Party starting with the elections in 2022, or very bad days ahead. We know where Mueller, hastings et al are on this, admirable in a way -- it will soon be time for everybody to pick sides. Either way, I think we will see a new map of the country within 10 years.

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    More trickling out about cycle thresholds and test accuracy. Note I have not fully read this paper yet, but it appears to be another confirmation of higher thresholds leading to higher false positives. May be of interest to the thread.

    Viral cultures for COVID-19 infectious potential assessment – a systematic review | Clinical Infectious Diseases | Oxford Academic

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    The Georgia Vote-Counting Video Was Not 'Debunked.' Not Even Close

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    I’m not going to go into the details of the numerous unprecedented issues of corruption and fraud surrounding this election because those details are many and some are already in the public domain anyway. I am simply going to observe that this is a monumental moment not just in the history of America but in the history of the world, and a monumentally catastrophic moment in terms of freedom, democracy, morality decency and honesty. Those who understand what is actually happening don’t need the whole thing spelled out to them, but those who think nothing terribly untoward is happening other than that President Trump is behaving badly, should listen carefully. Very, very carefully.

    The world outside the democratic West is a very brutal place. No left-leaning liberal would wish to live in Saudi Arabia, or Sierra Leone, or countless other such places. No left leaning liberal would wish to have lived in Europe during most of the decades of the 20th century which saw so much devastation and death courtesy of political totalitarians seeking nothing more than power and nothing other than power.

    These corrupt, totalitarian systems were finally defeated because America fought on the right side of good v evil, of freedom versus tyranny and did so at great sacrifice in terms of the many young men who never made it home again, who died in foreign fields and foreign seas in order to preserve freedom and democracy.

    Yet here we are, toward the end of 2020 looking at the very real possibility of the breakdown of democracy in America itself. What would have been unthinkable for so long, over so many generations of Americans, can no longer be considered unthinkable. If this gross subversion of democracy is not dealt with in a satisfactory manner by the lawyers then I see no reason, no reason at all why America should not descend into violence and potential civil war in the worst case scenario, or simply lose all confidence in any future elections as a best case scenario — which can only and inexorably lead to the worst case scenario again.

    Young, left-wing Americans will consider such a viewpoint insane, but young left-wing Americans know little of the brutality of the non-democratic parts of the world and little about just why that brutality never encroached upon their decadent lives.

    They know nothing about Nazism, fascism, socialism or Communism. Indeed, they believe President Trump and the people who admire and respect Trump are Nazis and fascists all, whilst they believe socialism and communism to be pure and good. This type of brainwashed ignorance is extraordinarily dangerous in a people of any country because no matter their ignorance and no matter how wrong they are, they truly believe they are standing up for what is good, for what is right and for what is moral. And because they feel that they, and they alone hold the moral high ground, then all who oppose them are not just wrong, they are evil and when it comes to evil and the defeat of evil, then the ends justify the means — just as so many people amongst so many previous generations have similarly believed which is why the history book of the world is a history book of war, horror and atrocity.

    What we are looking at today in America is just another iteration of purported good versus purported evil where the end justifies the means. President Trump is evil and must be removed scream the Left, but lacking the democratic means to remove him, he must instead be removed by any means necessary because the end justifies the means. The foolish, spoiled, decadent, ignorant little children in adult bodies who are now, right now engineering the coup d’état to remove President Trump are playing with fire. In their hazy, fuddled, naďve, closed minded thinking they feel there will be no real world consequences resulting from their action, but their naďveté is dangerously unlike the pragmatism of revolutionaries in the brutal and undemocratic parts of the world who know full well that if they fail in their coup they will be killed and if they win they will do the killing.

    Destroying the democratic foundations of America will certainly have real world consequences. When Donald Trump won the Presidency in 2016 the far-left cried Russian collusion and displayed their visceral hatred across the entire left-wing spectrum, but their anger wasn’t based on the undermining of democracy; their anger was merely that of the petulant, spoiled child denied a shiny bauble. Their anger was lukewarm, false, unjustifiable. Their anger was mere political posturing and they now think the anger of Trump supporters is the same — mere political posturing.

    But how wrong they are. How dangerously wrong they are. The anger of Trump’s supporters is white hot, it is incendiary, it is real and it is entirely, eminently justifiable, and it is not the anger of the loser, it is the anger of the wronged and is about so much more than Trump, this is about the democratic future of the United States of America. When a country reaches the point of such legal corruption and such moral degeneracy that democracy can be overturned in full view of a complicit and unquestioning media and liberal establishment there is very little guarantee that democracy will ever recover. This is why the anger is at boiling point, and even now, the left cannot understand what they have done.

    Before we settled into peaceful, democratic nations, power was decided by Kings, swords, and armies. Power rested with bloody battle and bloody victory. Democratic politics replaced battle and war in the West, but it has always been understood that democratic politics is war by other means and that if democracy is removed from politics then we can only go back to bloody battle and bloody war.

    The trouble with the left-wing, especially the young and cossetted who have never experienced the horrors of war, is that they don’t understand this simple premise. They don’t understand the importance of democracy and thus they cannot appreciate the volcanic anger amongst those who would peacefully yet unhappily accept a fair political defeat, but who will never accept defeat if it comes from the grinding jackboot of a subverted democracy.

    When one local gang squares off with another gang, the violence is quickly over. But when one half of a country squares off with the other, the violence is slow and sporadic in the beginning and just as in 1990s Yugoslavia the levels of violence and tit-for-tat reprisals build and build until finally a genuine civil war breaks out in all its primeval savagery and mass slaughter.

    I don’t need to spell out the numbers of Americans with guns, but I do need, apparently, to point out that the anger of millions of armed Americans is being stoked to stratospherically dangerous levels and that these angry people are justifiably enraged. Many of you watching this video will hear my words resonate with your thoughts, and many supporters of the 2nd Amendment will right now be saying that the main, overriding reason for the 2nd Amendment is not to shoot deer but to defend America against a tyrannical government. Perhaps now is a good moment to say that in times of war our dead soldiers are always politely remembered for having died in the defense of democracy, but the dying part was never their intention. Their intention was to very impolitely kill the aggressors who wanted to impose a tyranny upon them and here we are today, in late 2020, looking at a scenario which consists of a tyrannical coup d’état in the face of a hundred million armed and angry Americans who are convinced their democratic rights have been trampled upon and subverted.

    I hope and pray this will be resolved by the legal process, but I implore the Democrats, the left-wingers, the socialists and the communists to stop pretending what you have done is acceptable. It is not, and the consequences could be catastrophic both for you, for America and for the world. You are amongst the luckiest people ever to have existed on this planet. You represent a fleeting moment in time when you can live as no people before you have ever lived. Yet still you are unhappy. Cut off and cosseted from a world of brutality, poverty and misery you exist at the furthest extremity of decadence where your immense good fortune goes unrecognized and is instead replaced with a misplaced sense of bitterness, envy and hatred. You live in a wonderful country at a time of never before seen peace and prosperity, of freedom and democracy, yet you are now engaged in an action that could bring about the horrors of 20th century Europe. I am, as I say, an upstart limey, but this upstart limey is filled with a sense of foreboding and I beg you to stop what you are doing before the unthinkable becomes a physical reality. If you overturn democracy then America will become just another part of the brutal undemocratic world and if that happens nothing will ever, ever be the same again.

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