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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Jackson View Post
    It also seems like they both share the same enemy: populism. It seems like the kind of populism that made Trump and Brexit happen is transforming into something more chaotic. Maybe it's the effect of COVID lock-downs, and the result of all of us becoming terminally fucking bored, but this populist energy is becoming more like "anarcho-populism". It's almost like we're starting to just enjoy these actions, like the Capitol ruckus $GME short squeeze, as entertainment. Like the Joker setting fire to a huge pile of cash.
    Matt,

    I was a born anti-populist. From a young age I’ve always had schadenfreude for the downfall of populist movements or organizations. Anything that bucks the establishment, goes against the grain, disrupts the status quo or creates a certain amount of anarchy hits a sweet spot for me. Perhaps that’s why Starting Strength appealed to me? It does many of those things.

    I have always been suspicious of populism. It is a form of absolute power that corrupts absolutely. We saw this with the Boy Scouts, the Catholic Church, the people involved in the #MeToo movement (though I do have some reservations on that), policing, Wall St., COVID-19, and many other modern day current affairs.

    I think it is almost always good to burn a little bit of civilization down to move it forward. I am not advocating for violence, but simply, to use the same rules everyone else takes advantage of to point out the gaping holes in society. What made $GME so attractive was the ability to completely fuck massively evil hedge funds over using the same rules they always have - from the comfort of one’s phone.

    No Molotov cocktails were required. No beheadings needed to happen. No hippies were shitting outside their tents on Wall St. This was simply playing the same unfair game against the game proprietors themselves. In my opinion, when this happens, there is no better message that could be sent. Violent overthrows are always messy, uncivilized and dirty. A silent, cunning and legal (I don’t know if anything illegal happened), battle always is better.

    COVID-19 is the way governments of the world are playing this game. Not a single bomb was dropped and the world was destroyed. They’re just “playing by the rules” to the detriment of the planet.

    So, yes.... I sympathize with the Joker from time to time. Burn the stacks of cash and watch the fat cats cry. Most of life, you’re the bug. It feels great to be the windshield if even for a short time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiigelec View Post
    Fair enough. At least you’re honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wal View Post
    Yes George some are assholes, there are assholes in all types of work, I have worked with a few, but there are good ones among them, but you still need them. In Australia there is a high turnover of Police personnel due to the stress. You go to a few car crashes and see broken bodies of people splattered around or go to a few domestics where children have been killed it gets to you eventually and it hardens you up, so you need to give your coppers a bit of a break. Your father as a correctional officer would have seen the worst that humans turn into so you should give him a break also.
    You are barking up the wrong tree. I have never said anything even close to there being no good cops or all of them being assholes.

    But you are 100% wrong about cops needing a break. They are given a vast amount of power and therefore deserve more scrutiny than most other fields. You're not gonna get shot by an asshole in too many other jobs...at least not in the name of doing their job.

    Cop should be under massive scrutiny and receive harsh punishments when the abuse their power. The ones who cannot accept the terms are not fit for the job.

    Quote Originally Posted by wiigelec View Post
    Serious question:

    How many people here who actually invest—and by that I mean dollar cost averaging, buy and hold, asset allocation; or if you’re into individual stocks, pouring over balance sheets, income and cash flow statements—how many actual investors think the system is totally corrupt and stacked completely against the individual?

    Personally, I don’t. Yes there are shenanigans, cheaters who don’t get caught, manipulators who bend the rules to their advantage. But by and large the system is accessible and generally beneficial to anyone who takes a bit of time to educate themselves and build a disciplined approach to long-term savings.
    You ever get a bailout when your investments go south? If so. PM me your broker's name please.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank_B View Post
    The hedge fund vultures were not only hoping GameStop would go out of business, but salivating at the idea of them doing so. 15,000 employees at GameStop were being bet on by the hedge funds. Sure, many of them are teenagers working after school, or college kids, but they are jobs nonetheless. These fuckers have reveled in the destruction of struggling businesses for years, and now they got beat at their own game.
    They are the equivalent of some scumbag who sells you a lemon of a car without disclosing any of the known issues with it.

    Anyone defending this sort of thing with "Buyer Beware" is a borderline sociopath.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yngvi View Post
    As they say on WSB: We can stay retarded longer than you can stay solvent.......

    ....It doesn't matter. They have undisputed control of all 4 branches of government and 90% of each party. Any small chance at a move towards legitimacy is an improvement.
    I look at this a chemotherapy tactics. Never the preferred treatment, but if that's all that's left on the table...

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Jackson View Post
    What a week. Without any irony, the neoliberal elites looked us all in the eyes and tried to tell us that market manipulation is immoral and unfair.

    And Black Lives Matter up for a Nobel Peace Prize.

    "In our country, the lie has become not just a moral category but a pillar of the state" - Alexander Solzhenitsyn
    It would be interesting, for my perverse curiosity at least, to know how much of their blatant corruption is their stupidity or just the brazen "Big Lie" type shit. I wonder if they even knwo themselves though.

    Quote Originally Posted by wiigelec View Post
    If everyone at the table was cheating in collaboration, with the sole and stated intention of bankrupting the casino, your analogy would be more relevant.
    Cheating how? By knowing your actions affect the market? By telling friends theirs will too?

    That is literally what successful investment firms do for clients.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank_B View Post
    Horseshit. Wall St. shorters have consistently taken short positions and then heavily stoked the fires that “X” stock would go down. Then, they reaped the rewards of the stock going down by cashing in on their short positions.

    Suddenly, a group of self-professed “retards” got savvy and beat these fuckheads at their own game and you defend them.
    Exactly.

    Sad to have been outside the loop on this until the memes came out.

    These fucks only want regulation when they are losing. Free market gains and socialized loses. Every fucking time.

    Still pisses me off how all the banks that didn't act like casinos filled with use car salesmen basically got robbed of their rewards for doing good business when the too big to fail-ers got their bailouts from W and then again from Barry.

    Suuuure the games not rigged at all, folks. Ignore that man behind the curtain.

    Quote Originally Posted by wiigelec View Post
    Please provide examples of “Wall St. shorters” actively engaged in manipulating the fundamentals of a company they have shorted, or a company with good fundamentals whose stock price suddenly tumbled after being shorted, or of professional money managers stoking the fires of a stock price dropping, and not being prosecuted after being caught.

    Since your claim is “consistently”, it should not be difficult.
    Who cares about some BS fundamentals? And who gets to decide who's fundamentals are good enough to invest in? Do they get to tell us how much we can buy too.

    The folks pumping this up have every right to throw their money away if that is what they are doing.

    Or maybe they are looking to take a hit to crush their competition (only an idiot thinks that the buyers were only Reddit dorks). If Home Depot and Walmart can take loses until all the mom and pops have to close then too fucking bad for these clowns.

    And buy the stock changes the fundamentals anyway. It, at the very least, gives them breathing room to possible reposition themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by CommanderFun View Post
    Let me fast forward this bullshit. Someone says it's been known to happen and many insiders have admitted it does and given examples of how. You'll demand proof that'll hold up in court. Since they haven't already been prosecuted, there is no proof that'll hold up in court. You will continue to insist there is "no proof" and thus it doesn't happen.
    Sounds like election fraud too.

    Quote Originally Posted by CommanderFun View Post
    Hedge funds are an exploit in how the stock market works that lets them force market trends by having access to giant sums of money. $GME is a bunch of people on the internet agreeing to work together in a similar manner to exert similar levels of influence over the market. GME was shorted into oblivion, to a degree that shouldn't even be legal (shorting more shares than even exist? What the fuck?).
    Exactly.

    How do you possibly get to essentially sell the same product to two people, fail to deliver, and not get punished with at least never being allowed to do business again?

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    Hedge funds, stock market? Come you lot, everybody knows that land is always a good investment. Here in Aus we have a huge vacant dirt bowl in the centre and if politicians had any vision these days we could have built dams and store all that water from the north and built hydo and irrigation schemes instead of letting it run into the ocean, we could have drought proofed Australia and valued added to the country.

    Now because of the new green deal you folk and John Kerry are hatching they want to build solar and wind farms here and they are going to pour Billions into unreliable energy generation. Real investment needs reliable base load generation, plenty of water and land, we could have it here if only these new think politicians had guts, but they don't because they are "green". Green investment is a fairy tale on speed.

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    The Moral Case Against Lockdowns - YouTube

    The state of the penitentiary state of Israel
    Israeli lawyer Tamir Turgal about the mass vaccinations in Israel / genocide 2021

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    All I do when sharing information like this is
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    https://twitter.com/MichaelYeadon3/s...914868736?s=19

    PROF. JOHN IOANNIDIS - THE MOST PUBLISHED SCIENTIST IN THE WORLD ABOUT THE CORONA MEASURES

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    Will covid-19 vaccines save lives? Current trials aren’t designed to tell us | The BMJ

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    The government must act now to ensure all NHS healthcare professionals currently making enormous sacrifices are exempt from #covid19 related clinical negligence claims, says MDU's CEO Dr Chris Tomkins in an opinion piece for @bmj_latest. Read more: ow.ly/AdVN50Dm3hM

    https://twitter.com/the_mdu/status/1...387097090?s=19

    Now why would they be saying this?

    A very professional film on the success of Sweden
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    UK and israel stats before and after vaccine comparison
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    So, silver has gone up 10% this morning, and many bullion retailers in Europe have had to stop selling. They're saying they didn't experience this kind of demand for physical even in 2011 when the price was $50/oz.

    The lads on Wall St. Bets still saying $SLV is a coordinated distraction to pull attention away from $GME.

    Max Keiser's saying: Silver is probably the most shorted, (using naked-shorts) security/PM in the world. The “Crash JP Morgan, Buy Silver” campaign of 2010 drove the price from $15 to $50 (without Robinhood). #WSB/Reddit crowd could probably realize a 15x with a short-squeeze now

    I'm not sure what to make of it all, but it does seem as if people, like the Wall St. Bets guys, are one step away from discovering Bitcoin. In fact, if the theory is true that this was all a big trap designed to bring in more regulatory clampdowns and consolidate power even further, then that would be the best case for Bitcoin. Something has got to change.

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    For those of you still living in New York, this should warm your hearts: Rochester Police pepper spray 9 year-old girl — She was already in handcuffs… – CITIZEN FREE PRESS

    Apparently, when the cops tell you to get back in your house, you must meekly respond. Apparently when the cops tell you to be quiet, if you don't obey they mace you. Even if you're nine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilead View Post
    The Moral Case Against Lockdowns - YouTube

    The state of the penitentiary state of Israel
    Israeli lawyer Tamir Turgal about the mass vaccinations in Israel / genocide 2021

    YardleyYeadon@)MichaeIYeadon3 1 h
    All I do when sharing information like this is
    to salute the good work of other people.
    Please read & realise how liberating
    ivermectin & other valuable meds could be.
    It's because we're led to believe there's
    nothing can be done that we accept
    lockdowns. Use these meds instead!

    https://twitter.com/MichaelYeadon3/s...914868736?s=19

    PROF. JOHN IOANNIDIS - THE MOST PUBLISHED SCIENTIST IN THE WORLD ABOUT THE CORONA MEASURES

    Prof. John Ioannidis - the most published scientist in the world about the corona measures

    Will covid-19 vaccines save lives? Current trials aren’t designed to tell us | The BMJ

    mariaisler70

    Quercetin and Zinc: Zelenko Treatment Protocol

    The MDU
    @the_mdu
    The government must act now to ensure all NHS healthcare professionals currently making enormous sacrifices are exempt from #covid19 related clinical negligence claims, says MDU's CEO Dr Chris Tomkins in an opinion piece for @bmj_latest. Read more: ow.ly/AdVN50Dm3hM

    https://twitter.com/the_mdu/status/1...387097090?s=19

    Now why would they be saying this?

    A very professional film on the success of Sweden
    Covid, Tango and The Lagom Way - YouTube

    NHS whistle blower
    UK and israel stats before and after vaccine comparison
    UK Column News - 1st February 2021 - YouTube
    I'm glad Dr. Ioannidis is seemingly coming out of that black list they tried to put him in early last year. If there is ANYONE we should be listening to, it's him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiigelec View Post
    I concede your point. Just in case you missed it:

    Jim Cramer Explains How Short Sellers Manipulate Stocks

    Cramer Manipulation - YouTube

    My animosity towards the WSB folks is greatly diminished. In fact, a perfect time to use my own words against me:
    Dude, in today's world, hedge funds are like the conquistadors of old. The only difference is that these bastards frequently turn on their own guys. Your animosity towards the WSB folks was due to a structured effort by the media machine which is in bed with the hedge fund guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haghstull View Post
    It's fucking sick. And when he isn't patting himself on the back for his catastrophic coronavirus response, he's participating in publicity stunts* with his donors--the same gang of ruthless thugs that profited from this whole damn "pandemic" in the first place--including those slinking, craven, contemptible lowlifes Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos.

    What do we DO, Rip? How can we ever be strong enough to stand up to these people?

    * Tesla to make ventilators at Buffalo plant that got $750M NY subsidy
    I don’t get your point about Elon, I could be wrong, but he seems to be on our side of things in terms of calling out the bullshit.

    If I remember correctly, tesla producing vents was at the very beginning of the outbreak in the states when we were told there was a massive shortage and we need to “flatten the curve” because of said massive shortage.

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