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    To any LEO's on this site:
    As part of my morning news reading, I visit Lawofficer.com and you're right, most of us don't understand what police officers have to deal with. However, whatever sympathies I feel for the police, have to compete with the disgust I feel when I watch videos such as this one. The phrase “One bad apple spoils the barrel ” comes to mind. And whatever the truth is, my perspective is the police do little to police themselves.
    VIDEO: California police officer shoves, punches teen boy with autism | WKRN News 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Christiansen View Post
    Thought it might be worth posting this for those losing hope in the future.

    Some folks are still willing to fight the Man.

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    It's from a kids' book called Dogman: a Tale of Two Kitties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David A. Rowe View Post
    We had a week of defensive tactics, and it was good stuff. I don't like their particular handcuffing technique, but it would still work.
    Are you obligated to use that technique, or can you find and practice and use another one? I ask because in many LE agencies, if you don't follow their prescribed training regimen for this you can land in the shit for an out of policy action. This was explained at some length to us in the CA dojo I learned in by LAPD Lt. John Helms. He was a 6th degree black belt in Mushin Ryu Jujitsu and a rank or so higher in Okinawa-Te Karate. Since some of the trash talkers and elbow throwers here like to do what they do, look him up under his name and LAPD. He knew whereof he spoke and had the experiences and chops to back it up. Great guy to train with.

    Quote Originally Posted by David A. Rowe View Post
    People just don't understand, man. I don't really blame them -- I didn't until I did it myself. And I have good buddies who are SO. Hundreds of square miles and 2-3 deputies to cover it with maybe a trooper or two.
    No, and they don't WANT to understand. It's easier to talk shit than to do the job.

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    This is a very thoughtful response, I just want to say I appreciate this.
    No problem. A little leavening for the all too frequent nihilism, Mad Dog foaming at the mouth, and general crazy-assery in this thread couldn't hurt. It almost seems as if there's been some sort of re-infection from The Departed here lately.

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    They returned...this time with papers: The Gestapo came again attacking the Church!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark E. Hurling View Post
    Are you obligated to use that technique, or can you find and practice and use another one? I ask because in many LE agencies, if you don't follow their prescribed training regimen for this you can land in the shit for an out of policy action. This was explained at some length to us in the CA dojo I learned in by LAPD Lt. John Helms. He was a 6th degree black belt in Mushin Ryu Jujitsu and a rank or so higher in Okinawa-Te Karate. Since some of the trash talkers and elbow throwers here like to do what they do, look him up under his name and LAPD. He knew whereof he spoke and had the experiences and chops to back it up. Great guy to train with.
    But not as good as Bruce Lee.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kitsuma View Post
    They returned...this time with papers: The Gestapo came again attacking the Church!
    If Artur expects the Canadian people to rise up against tyranny, he's going to be disappointed. He can't even get the Calgary Police Service to punch him in the face like an autistic kid, much less the rest of the country to stand up on its hind legs and say stuff like "You're really upsetting me!" and "If it's not too much trouble, I'd like to be left alone, if it's okay with you." They suffer from a basic lack of aggression. Maybe the Vitamin D problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    But not as good as Bruce Lee.
    Do a search on him and see what he did while on LAPD. He was one of those guys who are the real deal.

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    To any LEO's on this site:
    As part of my morning news reading, I visit Lawofficer.com and you're right, most of us don't understand what police officers have to deal with. However, whatever sympathies I feel for the police, have to compete with the disgust I feel when I watch videos such as this one. The phrase “One bad apple spoils the barrel ” comes to mind. And whatever the truth is, my perspective is the police do little to police themselves.
    VIDEO: California police officer shoves, punches teen boy with autism | WKRN News 2
    Impossible to justify what that cop did and the way he mishandled it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerald Boggs View Post
    To any LEO's on this site:
    As part of my morning news reading, I visit Lawofficer.com and you're right, most of us don't understand what police officers have to deal with. However, whatever sympathies I feel for the police, have to compete with the disgust I feel when I watch videos such as this one. The phrase “One bad apple spoils the barrel ” comes to mind. And whatever the truth is, my perspective is the police do little to police themselves.
    VIDEO: California police officer shoves, punches teen boy with autism | WKRN News 2
    I don't think the autism is a relevant issue though. It's a win for the news station because it adds some more emotional weight to the story, but I don't see how it would make any difference what you should do if the cop had known. As it is, it can be hard to tell depending on how severe the kid's issues are and not terribly important as you have to react to what someone does regardless of why.

    But the cop didn't do what he should anyway.

    He escalated things right off the bat, which would kick in fight or flight (or freeze) for anyone. And then the giant pussy felt the need to punch someone who looks like they weigh 100lbs soaking wet with a brick in every pocket and hand. He might have genuinely been a flight risk, but I can only imagine the lies I'd tell, right on up to "I shot myself" if that kid got the best of me.

    And none of that is a training issue. It's a being a decent human issue.

    All of his completely justified by the woman cop being interviewed too.....which kind of blows the "one bad apple" idea out of the water at that precinct.

    My own children have put up better fights than that kid did with the cop. And yet I've somehow managed to not punch them in the face.

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    After finishing Das Kapital, I have begun reading Mein Kampf. I still highly recommend the reading sequence to everyone.
    The effusively verbose writing style and pedantic theorizing in Das Kapital can make the 1,000 page tome a difficult read, so read summaries or skim if you can't find the time to get through it.
    I am only 10% through Mein Kampf, so I have not formed any definitive opinions about it yet, but I still recommend reading the only official release (Murphy translation) and there is a full audio version freely available if you find the writing style cumbersome.

    The striking impression I have gotten from the first 10% is that the book echoes today's world much much more closely than even I had realized; This book could easily have been written today if a small number of pronouns and historical events were changed.
    Up through the first ~50 pages, Judaism is only mentioned once. And, once he begins to analyze Judaism in Germany more thoroughly, it is as a corollary of Marxism.
    Among the key points:

    -Hitler despises the "Social Democrats", which is the exact same Marxist-Socialist party as it is in the modern era.
    -He recognizes that the Marxist media promulgates nonsensical ideas and makes a point of attacking anyone with a strong will or intelligence. At the same time, they praise weakness, low-intelligence and degenerate behavior; The Vienna Press was the equivalent of the NYT and CNN today.
    -There was cancel culture, backed by physical intimidation; "Be my comrade or I will crack your skull!"
    -He rails against the over-powerful, overbearing, bureaucratic, extremely-centralized state apparatus that has become necessary to hold together a multicultural and diverse Austria.
    -When he wrote this book, he also considered the French to be an eternal enemy of the German people (That viewed had changed by the time the translation was published); we may have a modern equivalent in Russia.
    -He began reading what he calls the anti-semitic papers, because of the great lies he saw in the mainstream media; the only papers he could find that brazenly published logic thoughts were also anti-semitic.
    -In the media, anything that was German was derided; Anything that was French or foreign was elevated.
    -Schools were likened to indoctrination camps and children were criticized for behavior that was considered too German.
    -Immigration was greatly increased and immigrants were given special privileges above native citizens.
    -Hitler fears that the rise of Marxism is a question of to be or not to be; Communism could wipe all of humanity from the face of the earth.

    Just about the only part that is not familiar is the consistent lack of food, whereas now we have constant obesity.

    The definitions of all of the political terms we have, including capitalism, fascism and communism are vastly different depending on the source that defines them for us.
    According to what I have so far read of the original literature, the vast majority of the the views expressed under classical liberalism or libertarianism could also legitimately be considered fascist or national socialist.

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    It is unlikely Jewish heritage, religious beliefs, African heritage, Hispanic heritage or any other identity will protect you from being labeled a fascist, a racist, a NAZI and consequently a domestic terrorist in the eyes of our government in the Democratic People's Republic of America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerald Boggs View Post
    To any LEO's on this site:
    As part of my morning news reading, I visit Lawofficer.com and you're right, most of us don't understand what police officers have to deal with. However, whatever sympathies I feel for the police, have to compete with the disgust I feel when I watch videos such as this one. The phrase “One bad apple spoils the barrel ” comes to mind. And whatever the truth is, my perspective is the police do little to police themselves.
    VIDEO: California police officer shoves, punches teen boy with autism | WKRN News 2
    What I need you, and the others who read and participate in this board to understand, doesn't even come from being law enforcement.

    1. You are being manipulated, and it is working. It is also working on law enforcement officers. "One bad apple spoils the bunch" is about the shittiest way to frame the problem possible. ALL of HUMANITY has bad apples, but you aren't being shown any of that -- until it's convenient and serves a purpose (not for me or you, though... others' convenience and purposes). "One bad apple spoils the bunch" is an emotional argument that absolves YOU of having to think or be partially responsible for the situation.

    2. I'm not asking you to not be offended by what you see when it is immoral, illegal and unethical. I also HATE the immoral, illegal and unethical when it infringes upon the God-given sovereignty of the individual, damages them or degrades them. What I AM asking of you is that you don't abandon reason and start getting wrapped up in emotional arguments and painting gigantic disparate sets of people with a brush they don't deserve. You guys need to take a step back and ask yourselves what the difference is between you getting upset at a statistically insignificant occurrence rate of these interactions that have been hyper-focused and hyper-magnified by the Media, and the Karens calling you a fucking simpleton and knuckle-dragger because you refuse to wear a mask -- she, after all, saw the reports on the doctors and healthy young people who died of this horrible disease.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mark E. Hurling View Post
    Are you obligated to use that technique, or can you find and practice and use another one? I ask because in many LE agencies, if you don't follow their prescribed training regimen for this you can land in the shit for an out of policy action. This was explained at some length to us in the CA dojo I learned in by LAPD Lt. John Helms. He was a 6th degree black belt in Mushin Ryu Jujitsu and a rank or so higher in Okinawa-Te Karate. Since some of the trash talkers and elbow throwers here like to do what they do, look him up under his name and LAPD. He knew whereof he spoke and had the experiences and chops to back it up. Great guy to train with.
    I use an amalgamation of the way they do it in the department of corrections and what I was taught in the academy. I don't expect any issue from it because I can readily articulate why I use it. I will look into what you mentioned, too. I'm never adverse to trying something out, running it to failure, and then re-evaluating. There's also a lot to be said about getting good at going hands-on by just doing it a whole lot. That's essentially what happened in the Marine Corps, and it worked super well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark E. Hurling View Post
    No, and they don't WANT to understand. It's easier to talk shit than to do the job.
    It's probably why pride is such a lethal sin. In the same way that people will never admit the virus wasn't deadly because it would correctly show their "sacrifices" made out of fear to be entirely unhelpful (even disastrous). We're all afflicted by the human condition, and in addition to everything else that a lazy society has heaped upon law enforcement to handle... LEOs, on the individual level, will still need to rise to the challenge of disregarding the undeserved or unwarranted bullshit they get from people in an attempt to seek common ground and make peace.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    But not as good as Bruce Lee.
    To be fair... Bruce Lee was not as good as Bruce Lee.

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    “One bad apple spoils the barrel" isn't an emotional argument. It's a fact. Both with literal apples and things like police departments.

    The cure in both cases is to get rid of the bad apples. Not covering for them or justifying their behaviors. Certainly not shifting blame to folks who notice.

    On of the reasons I became a general contractor was because so many of them were bad apples. It's so bad that one of the pep talks I gave my business partner (he had the money, but I had the experience) was that you didn't even have to be above and beyond character-wise. You just had to not be a douche.

    Still had to deal with the skepticism of potential customers and even had one stand out occasion where an honest misunderstanding on our part turned into insults and accusations along the lines of "Typical contractor" sort. We didn't get butthurt or cover for the douchebags. We agreed because it was true (and we were happy to help people avoid having to employ the bastards) and we proved we were better and hooked the up with others who were better when we couldn't be of service ourselves for some reason.

    That would obviously never work with the police though. Better blame the taxpayer instead. Yup. The guy never asked and always forced to fund it is definitely the problem.

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