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    Quote Originally Posted by johnst_nhb View Post
    Let’s do a slight pivot.

    How does this really end? Because it WILL End…
    The way every war ends: with one side surrendering. Beyond that, we can only speculate. This is why it's so important not to take the pseudo-vax. This isn't about medicine, it's about submission.

    To those who think this is all for your own good, ask yourself why has all the propaganda been functionally equivalent to war-time demoralization propaganda? Disease is spreading in the ranks. Cower in fear to prove you are brave. Socially isolate yourself (really think about that choice of phrase for a moment). Never gather in groups. Always be suspicious of your neighbors. People on the front line are being decimated. All you need to do is surrender, and you'll be able to go home and see your family again. This is all textbook demoralization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3rdcoast_slope View Post
    China is not fucking around, they are pissed about the 1800’s and will stop at nothing to regain their dignity.
    https://www.realcleardefense.com/art...ar_784270.html

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Grantham View Post
    I agree that this the ideal way to make these decisions. I'm not convinced that we can come up with a set of numbers that we can all agree on.
    What is wrong with these numbers? https://twitter.com/covid_clarity/st...49035397074949

    Note the death numbers in the 10-19 demographic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    Denninger is On The Money: Independence? Where? in [Market-Ticker]

    I like this part:

    Come talk to me about how horrible and racist things like diesel engines (in trucks, ships and trains), electric power, light bulbs, telephones, the IP protocol that makes your suckle media work, flush toilets, air conditioned buildings and dozens of other things we not only enjoy but rely on daily, and flush them all down the toilet because some white dude invented damn near all of it. Everyone who isn't competent wants to use these things and enjoy the fruits of our civilization while at the same time calling everyone involved in creating the comforts and utility that we all enjoy a bunch of racists and worse
    This same thing applies to the current incarnation of faux feminism. They shit on the people who invented everything and keep the very foundations of civilization running.

    You don't see women fixing the utility poles while it's snowing at 3am. You don't see them working in the sewers. They are rare in dangerous jobs. And there's no fight for "equality" there, no fight for equal representation. I have men in the last few generations of my family that died of black lung from the coal mines. But, male privilege is everywhere!

    Workplace fatalities from U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics 2018: 5.7 per 100,000 vs. 0.6 per 100,000 for women. ~10x difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Grantham View Post
    pro vaccine folks and vaccine hesitant folks


    These are propaganda terms being regurgitated from CNN and other state run propaganda outlets. Also, it's a false dichotomy, and the "hesitant" part is insulting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnst_nhb View Post
    Let’s do a slight pivot.
    Quote Originally Posted by johnst_nhb View Post

    How does this really end? Because it WILL End…



    https://media.patriots.win/post/7VKydNCx.jpeg

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmdrfunk View Post
    These are propaganda terms being regurgitated from CNN and other state run propaganda outlets. Also, it's a false dichotomy, and the "hesitant" part is insulting.
    Yeah. I'm not "hesitant." I'm just not taking the fucking thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Schexnayder View Post



    ILet's talk about conditional probability and safety. Most safety (and health) scenarios evolve from an initiating event (IE), or condition. For example, you're very unlikely to be attacked by a shark if you never went into water. If you do go in the water, your chances are 1 in 11.5 million (Wikipedia). Mathematically, the overall probability is the product of the IE and the actual risk. In the case of staying out of the water, it's 0*1/11.5million = 0.

    Now, let's apply this to the COVID situation.
    “ANDs” multiply. “ORs” add.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovan Dragisic View Post
    Everybody starts pretending it never happened. Isn't this already the norm in much of the US?
    This is the most likely scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3rdcoast_slope View Post
    This is not going away anytime soon. I probably talk too much psychology for some people, but these issues are deep seeded…
    Strongly agree. People appear to be brain damaged, no hyperbole.

    Just yesterday, saw a lady on a walk in sunny 90 degree weather, no one around, with a mask on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post

    What is wrong with these numbers? https://twitter.com/covid_clarity/st...49035397074949

    Note the death numbers in the 10-19 demographic.
    I don't have an issue with those numbers, but take care not to assume that the zeros in Minnesota can be extrapolated to every state. Missouri, for example has had 5 deaths in a similar age range, Texas has had 35.

    Quote Originally Posted by cmdrfunk View Post
    Also, it's a false dichotomy, and the "hesitant" part is insulting.
    This is obviously a false dichotomy, but it's difficult to discuss generalities without some of these things. Obviously, not everyone will fit neatly into any of these bins. It's entirely possible that nobody fits neatly into any of these bins.

    My use of the term 'hesitant' was not intended to insult. I use that term to try to include several shades of grey. I'm open to suggestions for a replacement term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommanderFun View Post
    This is the most likely scenario.
    The British have announced the lifting of all restrictions with July 19. They said people will still be dying from Covid in the years to come, about 20k per year, but they essentially want to get on. The German foreign minister has also declared Germany should lift all restrictions by September. This seems to take care of Europe, and everywhere else, other than Australia and New Zealand, is pretty non hysterical already. My guess is that everyone is running out of money and the finance guys have done the math, probably run a bunch of scenarios, all of which point to hyper inflationary pressure if the printer keeps going brrr.

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    Today's Australia story: Aussie bloke fined $5,000 for drinking coffee without a mask… – CITIZEN FREE PRESS

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    And let's not forget our own problems: Jan. 6 Detainees Confined 23 Hours a Day, Attorneys Say

    Jan. 6 Detainees Confined 23 Hours a Day, Attorneys Say
    BY ISABEL VAN BRUGEN July 5, 2021 Updated: July 5, 2021biggersmaller Print
    Dozens detained in federal prison awaiting trial following the Jan. 6 breach of the U.S. Capitol building are being subject to solitary confinement, a lack of required medical care, and restricted access to defense counsel, according to two attorneys and the father of a defendant.

    Lawyers John Pierce and Steven Metcalf II, who represent several of the defendants, told EpochTV’s “The Nation Speaks” that among the close to 500 arrested so far in connection with the Jan. 6 incident, more than 50 are being held pretrial in solitary confinement for 23 hours a day, in conditions that are “unconstitutional” and violate “every single basic human right.”

    Pierce said these individuals are being detained by federal judges under the 1984 Bail Reform Act, which, under certain circumstances, authorizes pretrial detention if it’s believed the individuals are a threat to the community or a flight risk.

    “There are about 50 plus or minus that are being detained, that have been in prison for months and will likely remain in prison for many more months until their day in court,” Pierce said.

    Ned Lang, the father of a defendant who he said is receiving particularly harsh treatment, said his son Jake is currently detained in a Washington prison in an area called “the hole.”

    “[Jake] has no access to when [his attorney] goes down and talks to him. He has no access to a private interview with an attorney. It’s like you’re in a third-world country. It’s unbelievable,” said Lang. “From what he’s telling me and what I’m hearing, it’s solitary confinement 23 hours and one hour out a day. It’s horrible.

    “These are Americans, we have individual rights, we have our Bill of Rights. This is inhumane treatment.”

    Expanding on Jake Lang’s treatment in detention, Metcalf charged that he is being denied his constitutional rights by having only restricted access to defense counsel.

    “I’m being told the water is black—he has to filter the water through a sock in order to even drink water,” Metcalf said. “In addition to only going out one hour a day, there’s also the weekend, [when] he doesn’t get out at all, and he’s not able to use a shower, get a shave for days on end.”

    These conditions for pretrial detainees, he said, are unusual.

    “The conditions in the D.C. jail in particular are getting to a point of not only being unconstitutional and violating every single basic human right, but they’re getting to a point where people have to speak out, and they have to know about what’s going on,” he said.

    Metcalf accused authorities of instilling a “level of fear” in all of the inmates, but added that it’s unclear who is to blame for the conditions.

    “Anything that they do, or if anybody speaks up on their behalf, all of a sudden, they get targeted even further and then get put into a dangerous, unsanitary condition,” the attorney said.

    Testifying at an oversight hearing held by the House of Representatives Judiciary Committee last month, FBI Director Christopher Wray said the FBI had divided the thousands of protesters who were at the Capitol on Jan. 6 into three groups: a first group of “peaceful, maybe rowdy” protesters who didn’t participate in the breach and made up the largest group; a second group who engaged in criminal trespass of the Capitol Building; and a third group—the smallest in number—who were responsible for carrying weapons into the Capitol.

    Close to 500 arrests have been made so far among those in the second and third groups, Wray told the committee. The Department of Justice previously stated that the majority of the cases are related to entering a restricted building, obstruction of an official proceeding, and civil disorder.

    The FBI director also testified that the law enforcement agency considered the events that unfolded on Jan. 6 to be an act of “domestic terrorism.” When asked by Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.) whether the events could be considered an “insurrection,” Wray said it would be inappropriate to describe the breach as such.

    “In my role as FBI director, because that’s a term that has legal meaning, I really have to be careful about using words like that,” Wray said, noting that what he says could affect ongoing criminal cases.

    Democratic lawmakers have pushed the narrative that the Jan. 6 breach was an “insurrection,” largely during the January impeachment effort against former President Donald Trump. No one who participated in the breach has been charged with insurrection.

    On June 23, Indiana woman Anna Morgan-Lloyd, 49, was put on probation, in the first sentencing stemming from the Jan. 6 breach.
    No word from the GOP about this.

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