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    "We conclude that the mRNA vacs dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination."
    https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1....suppl_1.10712

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    So, I woke up today and had a casual peek at China for their economy. The first two things I run across are Evergrande and Kingold.

    Uh oh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wal View Post
    Versus:

    Vaccinated English adults under 60 are dying at twice the rate of unvaccinated people the same age - by Alex Berenson - Unreported Truths

    Amazing, isn't it? Can Shiva help us here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilead View Post
    "We conclude that the mRNA vacs dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination."
    https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1....suppl_1.10712
    Here's the abstract, from an AHA journal, to please wal:

    Our group has been using the PLUS Cardiac Test (GD Biosciences, Inc, Irvine, CA) a clinically validated measurement of multiple protein biomarkers which generates a score predicting the 5 yr risk (percentage chance) of a new Acute Coronary Syndrome (ACS). The score is based on changes from the norm of multiple protein biomarkers including IL-16, a proinflammatory cytokine, soluble Fas, an inducer of apoptosis, and Hepatocyte Growth Factor (HGF)which serves as a marker for chemotaxis of T-cells into epithelium and cardiac tissue, among other markers. Elevation above the norm increases the PULS score, while decreases below the norm lowers the PULS score.The score has been measured every 3-6 months in our patient population for 8 years. Recently, with the advent of the mRNA COVID 19 vaccines (vac) by Moderna and Pfizer, dramatic changes in the PULS score became apparent in most patients.This report summarizes those results. A total of 566 pts, aged 28 to 97, M:F ratio 1:1 seen in a preventive cardiology practice had a new PULS test drawn from 2 to 10 weeks following the 2nd COVID shot and was compared to the previous PULS score drawn 3 to 5 months previously pre- shot. Baseline IL-16 increased from 35=/-20 above the norm to 82 =/- 75 above the norm post-vac; sFas increased from 22+/- 15 above the norm to 46=/-24 above the norm post-vac; HGF increased from 42+/-12 above the norm to 86+/-31 above the norm post-vac. These changes resulted in an increase of the PULS score from 11% 5 yr ACS risk to 25% 5 yr ACS risk. At the time of this report, these changes persist for at least 2.5 months post second dose of vac.We conclude that the mRNA vacs dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilead View Post
    Real scientists are not mystified at all, only the scientologists are the ones that are mystified!
    Scientists "Mystified" Over Africa's Low Vax Rate and Low COVID Numbers
    The only thing "mystifying" about this amazing piece of AP Journalism is the absence of the words "hydroxychloroquin" and "ivermectin" in the text.

    And this is important. VERY important -- the momentum is building, and we're all getting tired of this bullshit: Instapundit >> Blog Archive >> THREAD: Anti-Lockdown Protests Around The World….

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovan Dragisic View Post
    Isn't at least Pfizer no longer under EUA, but full approval?
    Comernaty is approved, but BNT162b2 is still under EUA even though it is the same product technically. All jabs everywhere are still using the BNT162b2 branding, therefor is still technically under EUA.

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    The age range 10-60 is too wide to say something useful, since the distribution of the vaccinated and unvaccinated is different at different ages. For example, if, hypothetically, 100% of people above 40 are vaccinated and 0% below 40 are unvaccinated you would see a lower death rate among unvaccinated people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Grantham View Post
    no one cares what a virologist from a small primarily undergraduate institution in northwest Missouri has to say about what national public policy should be. Folks on this board have first-hand knowledge that this is true. I'm afraid that my influence isn't really bigger than yours.
    This is pathetic. You're posting on the board of a small-town Texas gym owner who rebuffed easy money and conventional training methods, and instead catalyzed a revolution in physical fitness and culture.

    You have a professional and ethical responsibility to make sure your colleagues adhere to high standards - whatever you think those are. I think this irresponsibility is what really rankles the public, and they end up taking their frustration out on inanimate technologies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Rippetoe View Post
    The former's "age standardization" upweights old unvaccinated people and downweights young vaccinated. The numerical effect is unsurprising. Such "corrections" are misguided; heterogeneity has to be embraced. There's a population which benefits, and a population which does not.

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    This comment below that Berenson graph may help.

    "One reason not to draw too much of a conclusion is that 10 to 59 is a really, really broad age group, and the underlying death rate at the top of that group will be much higher than at the bottom.

    If the vaccination is also unevenly distributed in that group (and you would imagine the vaccination rate to be much lower among 10 year-olds than 59 year-olds) that would probably provide a sufficient explanation.

    Before everyone piles on, I am opposed to mass vaccination, to mandates, to (most) child vaccination against Covid, and all the fascist tyranny being imposed on the back of this slightly worse than normal respiratory disease. It's just that I work in clinical research and we come across all the time things like this that look like something but very often aren't when you dig deeper.

    Those of us pushing back need to be scrupulously careful with data and the analysis thereof, the exact opposite of what the propagandists do."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satch12879 View Post
    No government is paying any attention to protests anywhere, except to clamp down harder.
    They are probably gathering data on how far they can push things before people start shooting back, which seems like a really useful experiment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitsuma View Post
    All you Aussies: what do you think of this?

    Aussie Patriots Unite With The Sovereign Tribal People To Form a New Government & Expel The NWO

    Apparently, Riccardo Bosi @AustraliaOneParty supports this. Are you able to renounce your Australian citizenship and become a citizen of a this new Nation?
    The speaker in that video turns up at most of our anti-mandate rallies and rambles on about 'corporate agents' running governments and the paedo rings at the highest ranks of gov. Some of what he says is probably true, but it's a distraction from the immediate challenge we have, that being people are losing lives and jobs and no long-term court challenges against an entrenched plutocratic system is going to help that.

    The Aboriginal population of Australia is somewhere around 2% of the total population (roughly 20% of the Northern Territory population where he and I live). They could succeed in the High Court and it wouldn't make a lick of difference because the Feds would simply find a way to make the decision irrelevant. They'd be voted out, if they didn't because the greater majority wouldn't stand for it. Of course the media would go all in on the 'Aboriginals can claim your house and land' stories, like they have in the past.

    I played on the same football team as the speaker in the early 90s and he's a nice fella and means well. Since then, he's found a cause and all power to him for that. But this thing that is happening a lot lately, where people try to find little inconsistencies in the laws and the health directions and think it will be the key to the whole mess falling in a heap, is missing the wider point (of endemic corruption) and wasting time when the national and state governments are simply changing the rules whenever they like.

    Re Mark's comment "Will there be a "2nd Amendment" in this new nation?"...I'm not sure how common it is these days, but Aboriginal tribes (at least in the recent past) typically conducted 'payback' punishments to perpetrators of crimes in their community. Do something really bad, you get speared as payback.

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    Mark that abstract is part of a full report the rest is behind a paywall. Do you have access to the full report?

    "may account for the observations" means a possibility not a probability . Intravenous injections of any vaccine can have consequences, it is all about aspiration of a syringe before it injection so it goes into the muscle not a vein.

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    Here is another abstract.

    https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1...2.suppl_1.A310

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